I'm working on a project that consists of a web application where users can start long process of generating different types of files.
User wont be able to download the files, only can start the process and the files will be located on the server and this process could take several hours.
My Idea to solve this its a MVC App that is communicate with a windows service and this service start the file generation process.
I have some concerns about this.
based on your experience, do you think that is the best way to solve the problem?
What is the best and easiest way to communicate the web app and the windows service? this is a one way communication, web to service.
About the windows services; should the service do all the processes? or maybe its better if the service only execute console applications that do the generation o the different type of files.
I really appreciate your help.
Since Web API can be self-hosted in any process and a Windows service isn't an exception, I would recommend hosting both HTTP API and the long process thing in the same Windows service.
Use OWIN/Katana to host your Web API.
Use Topshelf to create your Windows service.
If you design and implement this Windows service using best practices, it should be a good solution, and you should think about how easy will be the deployment of your solution since you don't need IIS anymore.
I would go still with the IIS. This is because of its support. Have been using Web webservice to host long running background service for long time without issues. Only concern is to remove the default application recycling.
Of course your application will need to handle properly start/stop events.
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I am trying to run a background service which just writes to a file on a specified interval.
There are two methods that I tried
1) Created the project with the Console application template
2) Created the project with Web Application as template
When I run the app from visual Studio, both of them run fine. But when I deploy them to IIS, only the web application version works. It must be noted that there is absolutely no difference between the code of the two projects. I have used the WebHost as a hosting strategy in both the projects as well as well as installed all the dependencies in case of Console application as there are in the Web Application version.
I must also inform that I have used the preloadEnabled="true" option in IIS as IIS needs a web request to start the application.
I am wondering what is the difference between both the project types as the code is the same? I don't want the Web Application template.
Edit 1: I forgot to mention that the service will also need to expose an api endpoint for healthcheck purposes. Will the windows service approach listen for http requests?
I used the following article for implementing my background service.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/architecture/microservices/multi-container-microservice-net-applications/background-tasks-with-ihostedservice
After years of building background services, I learned that Windows services are the best tools to implement these applications. While there are different techniques to keep an IIS application up and running in the background and prevent it from getting recycled, in practice, the applications on IIS are not meant to be executed forever.
If you had an intention to build your app in the cloud, I would have suggested using something like Azure WebJobs or Azure Functions Timer-Triggered functions, but for on-premise, even using something like Hangfire in the web is not sustainable. The worst happens when you need backward compatibility on Windows servers that don't have the "Application Initialization" module.
My suggestion is to move your application to a simple Windows Service if you control your environment. Windows services consume less memory, are easier to manage, and can run forever without getting recycled.
WebApplications are plain the wrong tools for this.
Being always on and always reachable, WebServers are primary targets for hacking. To compensate for that, they are usually run under the most restrictive user rights you can imagine: Read rights to their programm and this instances content directory. While I do not know why it worked at all, it propably will stop working in Production.
What you wanted to write was eitehr a Service or something executed by the Windows Task Sheduler. Personally I advise for the Task Sheduler as Services have their own set of restrictions. Unless of coruse there is some detail of the requirements that you did not told us.
This article could be helpful. It's a step by step tutorial on how to convert a console application to a web application.
Currently working on a .NET solution for an application server. I'm using .NET 4.0 running on Windows Server 2008 R2 with IIS 7.5.
My requirements are:
The application server can run multiple Console applications at once on a schedule - Quartz.net looks like a really good solution to this problem - and is working well for me so far
The application server will also host a web application that will report on jobs (what time they ran, what they did, how long they took etc)
I would like to be able to restart the "service" that is running my jobs and trigger ad hoc jobs from the web interface.
The Service that is running my jobs needs to run all the time
Once this is live I will not have direct access to the machine to restart a Windows Service, but i could potentially setup IIS to be able to do this for me.
WCF Services looks quite promising to me - but I'm not sure where to host it. My current project uses a WCF Service to run console applications using the Quartz.net plugin. Configuration for what to run and when to run it is stored in an oracle database and my WCF service connets directly to the database to retrieve this information (not sure if that is the intended use of WCF).
If I host the WCF Service in IIS / WAS then running the console applications might be a security concern from what I've read. I can keep the WCF service running all the time using appFabric at least. Alternatively I could host it in a Windows Service and allow my web app to consume the WCF service to report on the jobs. I'm concerned about using a Windows Service though as I wont have direct maintenance access to this machine and if it breaks I'm in trouble. I would really like to be able to do the maintenance from a web application. A windows service also feel a little unnecessary given it can be hosted from IIS.
So my question is - is a WCF Service the right approach to this problem or can anyone think of a better approach?
If a WCF service is a good approach - where should I host it so that I can perform maintenance via a web interface given I will not have direct access to the machine itself?
Should the WCF service be the one to start and schedule the jobs?
I think you're overengineering it, possibly.
The Problem: You have a web site which needs to start up jobs on an ad-hoc basis. Other jobs will be run to a fixed schedule. The web site will report on all/any of these jobs.
For running the scheduled jobs, a Windows Service using Quartz is indeed an ideal solution for the fixed schedule part. However, to report on those jobs the data must be collected by the Service and made available. A service can be set up to restart on fail, so you can guarantee that it will always be running (barring a minute or two when it's restarting if it fails - and why should it?. However, any history will be lost unless the Service stores it somewhere it can be retrieve it after a restart.
The simpler solution to the web site getting the history is for the Service to write its data to a database. Then it doesn't worry about a restart: all the history has already been saved, and the data can be read by the web site at any time.
Similarly, if the web site talks directly to the Service (as a WCF Service or otherwise) then what happens if the service is not currently running? The request gets fails until the restart is completed. Frustrating for the user. Alternatively, the web site puts the request into the database. The service monitors the database for requests, and starts jobs appropriately when it sees a new request. If a request is written while the service is not running, when it restarts it will see the request(s) in the DB and execute them.
So I think using a WCF service is overkill, and actually introduces some problems: persistence of history, and what to do about requests made while the service is down. These problems don't arise if you go the way I've described.
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I've been away from web development for 6/7 years now and I'm completely lost in regards to how to do things. I'm going through some tutorials on HTML5 and whatnot, but I was hoping to get a helping hand here.
I'm trying to build a (POC) website which would have the "server" monitor it's running applications and when a certain application is running change the content of a hosted page. I don't want the model to be PageLoad->Application Check, I'd rather have something like ServerStart->ApplicationHook->Callback->Model->PageLoad->CheckModel, so a hook is put in place when the server starts and the callback of the hook updates a model which the page uses to update. Although this architecture may not be the best way, in general I'm just looking for a way to have a long running process which starts when the server starts up. Eventually I'l move this to a Windows service which calls a webservice when changes are made, but for a POC I'd rather keep away from multiple applications interacting, as the Windows Service would need to be "called" by the server too and I can't think of an easy implementation of that at the moment.
So, if you were building a page which relied on events on the server and needed to be able to interact with an application on the server separately to an individual page, but the page needs to be able to "post" information back to that application what would you do?
My explanation has been a bit all over the place, so I hope at some point my question has come across clearly! :)
Maybe there're alternatives but I think your only option for this kind of setup is a Windows service. If you need to talk to it from other components, have it use sockets or listen for HTTP requests on a known port. Doing what you described from a web application is not impossible but it'd be certainly very hard since it's the web server (app pool executable) that controls what happens in the process, not your code. In a Windows service, you're in control.
Edit: here's an article about the different options for hosting a web service - it seems to me that using a Windows service is, indeed, your best choice. You may be able to use a WCF service but you'll have to talk to a local application on the server and that part may be easier to do just using a Windows service.
I am relatively green with C# and WCF. I have landed on a project where I am creating self hosted WCF services running as Windows services but am starting to wonder if I should use IIS instead (which we don't currently use) as managing all of these services could eventually get cumbersome.
Despite my best efforts, I have yet to find any definitive information about why I might favor one approach over the other. The services are primarily used for utility stuff like resizing images, retrieving files, etc. and are called by both C# and Java clients.
Thanks
The shortest answer would be 'it depends'. On your requirements. You can self host without problems, but IIS will manage resources more effectively and enable you to fine tune stuff more easily than self-hosted.
For instance, in IIS would be more simple to deploy a new version or remove and old one.
Either way is fine.
Generally, using the builtin IIS hosting capabilities can make deployment and configuration simpler for you. Also you have the activation model of http.sys - which means IIS will start the necessary process for you when an appropriate message arrives.
Clients of any platform can connect to the WCF services regardless whether they are self-hosted or IIS hosted.
ps: how to allow IIS-hosted WCF services to store their configuration data in distinct xxx.config files
I have a WCF Service that I already mention in another question here. As I have read here host WCF in Windows service is the best solution for all reasons. So that's why I select this option. But windows service hosting doesn't allow any visual process communication (before we used self-hosted service, that have hosted in console application and report any problems just into console). How can I get similar way for hosting service? My thoughts is about using another named pipes binding for visual "communication" between service and human.
I would be very nice for me if somebody recommend me something useful.
Thanks very much in advance guys!
In case you need the "Screen" just so that the service can report the problems, the I would suggest that you use windows event to log such events from the service and then you can create any UI/back ground process that can look for such events in window event log and report them appropriately (ex: sending email etc)
I tend to agree with #Ankur's answer, but figured I'd give you an alternative option. You could consider using WMI provide visual feedback to a running service. I attended an interesting ALT.NET talk on the subject (not WCF specific) a while back (full video is available here) and it should be relatively straightforward to instrument your application with WMI to allow you system state to be queried