I want to make a IRC bot and got most of the code already, the only thing I don t know yet is or it is possible that I can host it in a WCF service. The problem I think is that it will be garbage collected ??? I want it to run in a WCF service so that I can manage it with my own WPF programm that will consume the WCF service. The bot must be a static object, since I only want the bot to be 1 time made. I don t want multiple instances. Also the bot must be 24/7 online.
Is this possible in a WCF service project ? or should I seperate the project ? in a console app/windows service and a seperate WCF project ?
Maxim
An IRC bot doesn't really fit the structure of web services, in my opinion: web services are generally sessionless functions that are in a request/response format, while an IRC bot is something that stays connected to a room and responds to some of the traffic while ignoring other.
A Windows service would probably be my first option. It fits well with what it needs to do: stay open at all times on a server, be able to talk to (messages to/from) the IRC channel as well as a database or other systems (e.g. if you keep a list of banned users in a DB).
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I have an ASP.NET MVC application hosted in Azure.
This application is complemented with a desktop application that also has WCF services for communicating with III party interfaces. WCF are hosted locally.
There are thousands of clients using the desktop application at different geographical locations.
Till now, every desktop application used to talk to web app using api with the help of WCF.
This was limited to on demand from the desktop application.
Whenever desktop application feels the need to talk to web app, it used the way of web api from WCF.
Now, what I want is:-
To access the different desktop applications(typically called sites), from azure depending upon the need.
This is required on account of an online ordering system that is through web app/mobile app.
I do not want to keep polling from desktop application to know about if any new order is there for this site.
I feel it would be better if I can play from other side.
Also, keeping in mind that IP of sites will not be fixed. There may be issue with firewall. NAT may translate resource identifier differently.
Can service bus in azure may be of any help, but what confuses me is that every desktop application is having its own WCF service and order should reach the respective site only.
Any type of ideas on this would be appreciated.
According to your description, Service Bus messaging is a perfect way to achieve this.
More information about Service Bus Messaging, we can refer to: Service Bus queues, topics, and subscriptions
In addition, We can also use RabbitMQ or ZeroMQ which is similar with Service Bus Messaging because both of them are free. You can choose an best way to realize your requirements.
About differences between ZeroMQ and RabbitMQ:
ZeroMQ has better performance, but it is built in the case of allowing message data loss to apply to high throughput / low latency applications. Unlike ZeroMQ, RabbitMQ fully implements the AMQP protocol, which is similar to mailbox services, supporting message persistence, transaction, congestion control, load balancing and so on, making RabbitMQ have a more extensive application scenario.
Function RabbitMQ ZeroMQ
Message persistence Support Not Support
Transaction Support Not Support
performance Low High
stability High Low
Support for AMQP protocol Support Not Support
Application scenario Data loss is not allowed High throughput
More information about RabbitMQ and ZeroMQ, we can refer to:
RabbitMQ
ZeroMQ
If you are able to modify the desktop applications, implementing a websockets connection with SignalR might be worth a look. The desktop applications sign up with a SignalR hub you provide.
You can then push data to the clients from, for example an ASP.NET MVC app. It works very reliable and handles lots of connections well. It is typically used for realtime web communication but might be useful in your case, too.
The downside is probably, that the desktop app needs to initially sign up to a hub to receive push messages.
I have been asked to replace a legacy "service" which processes XML requests (of an arbitrary format with no schema...) from multiple clients (Excel macros, C# apps) over Tibco EMS. I have no control over the clients.
I was hoping I could use WCF for this task but I don't think I can without a service contract. I have been toying with the idea of creating a WCF service and another console app service which would intercept and parse the existing XML requests and forward to the new WCF service (which new clients would use and existing clients could eventually migrate to).
However, this is adding complexity which could become a support and development headache. As such, I am tempted to build a console app based service which feels like a shame seeing as how much you get for free with WCF.
Has anyone else developed WCF apps for legacy non-REST, non-SOAP clients?
I need multiple clients that talk to a WCF service. The WCF service also must be able to connect to any one of the clients also.
So - it sounds like the server and the clients need to have both a WCF server and client built into each one.
Is this correct or is there some way to do this?
I was looking at NetPeerTcpBinding, but that is obsolete. To be fair I'm not sure if that is a valid solution either.
Background:
I plan to have a Windows service installed on hundreds of machines in our network with a WCF service and a WCF client built in.
I will have one Windows service installed on a server with a WCF service and a client built in.
I will have a Windows Forms application
I will have a database
The clients on the network will connect to the service running on the server in order to insert some information on the database.
The user will use the Windows Forms application to connect to the Windows service on the server and this Windows service will connect to the relevant client on the factory floor (to allow remote browsing of files and folders).
Hence I believe the machines on the floor and the server both require a WCF cleint and service built in.
The reason people are recommending wsHttpDualBinding is because it is in itself a secure and interoperable binding that is designed for use with duplex service contracts that allows both services and clients to send and receive messages.
The type of communication mentioned 'duplex' has several variations. Half and Full are the simplest.
Half Duplex: Works like a walkie-talkie, one person may speak at any given time.
Full Duplex: Like a phone, any person may speak at any given time.
Each will introduce a benefit and a problem, they also provide ways to build this communication more effectively based upon your needs.
I'm slightly confused, but I'll attempt to clarify.
You have an assortment of approaches that may occur here, a Windows Communication Foundation (WCF) Service requires the following:
Address
Binding
Contract
Those are essentially the "ABC's" for WCF. The creation of those depicts a picture like this:
As you can see the Service will contain:
Host
Service
Client
The host houses the service which the client will consume so those service methods perform a desired task. An example representation:
As you see Client-1 is going through the Internet (HTTP, HTTPS, etc.) then will hit the Host, which will have the service perform those tasks.
Now Client-n is consuming the service locally, so it is talking over (TCP, etc.) as an example.
The easiest way to remember: One service can be consumed by however many clients require those methods to perform a task. You can create very complex models using a service-oriented architecture (SOA).
All WCF is, is a mean to connect your application to a host or
centralized location you may not have access to.
As you can see in the above image, the Client communicates through a Service to the Host. Which performs a series of task. WCF will talk over an array of protocols. Hopefully this will provide a better understanding of how WCF is structured.
There are a lot of tutorials and even post to get you started. Some excellent books such as "WCF Step by Step".
Essentially your looking for an asynchronous full duplex connection, or a synchronous full duplex service. As mentioned above, your task in essence is the point of a Service.
The question: How does this work best?
It will boil down to your design. There are limitations and structures that you will need to adhere to to truly optimize it for your goal.
Such obstacles may be:
Server Load
Communication Path
Security
Multiple Clients Altering UI / Same Data
Etc.
The list continues and continues. I'd really look up tutorials or a few books on WCF. Here are a few:
WCF Step by Step
WCF Multi-Tier Development
WCF Service Development
They will help you work with the service structure to adhere to your desired goal.
Remember the "ABCs" for the most success with WCF.
Use wsDualHttpBinding if you want your service communicate with your clients.
Read WS Dual HTTP.
You might want to try out creating a WCF service using netTcpBinding. It will work for your requirements. You can use the article How to: Use netTcpBinding with Windows Authentication and Transport Security in WCF Calling from Windows Forms as a start:
Also, there are many examples included within the WCF Samples package which you can use.
I am currently developing a C# Windows Form Application that I intend to let it interact with a server. The server will receive posting from a mobile application that I have developed and whenever a posting is received, my Windows Form Application should be notified and give me a notification. In order to do this, I intend to use WCF duplex service for it.
E.g. My mobile application sends an posting over to my server. Once my server reads and receives the new posting, the service should send a message over to my winform app to alert me that a posting is received. And the UI of the winform app should update accordingly to what I want to updated. (e.g. adding new panels)
This is basically how I wish for it to work
They way this would work is
WCF Service in running on my server
Windows Form connects to my server's WCF service using Duplex Contract
Mobile app posts to a webpage
Once the webpage receives the posting, the asp.net will invoke the WCF service
WCF duplex service receives the posting and sends the information to the winform app
My winform Application aka WCF Client updates UI with this new message received
My question is, how does step 4 proceed to step 5? To be specific, how does the service sends the information over to the winform app upon receiving the posting.
To be even more specific, once the posting is received from the webpage, the service contract is invoked and the information is sent and received by the service, how does the service make use of the call back channel to send the information over to the winform app and update the UI accordingly?
The answer to this question depends on how your WCF service is hosted and how "big" the service will eventually be (in terms of number of simultaneous clients).
The simplest scenario is a self-hosted WCF service (meaning hosted in a Windows Service or as a desktop application--not in IIS). In this case, you can use InstancePerSession mode and make your service use sessions. In this case, you'll have a 1:1 correspondence between clients and instances of your service class. When a client connects, retrieve the callback reference and store it in a static list outside of the service class. When you need to send a message to one or more clients, simply iterate over (or find the desired client in) your list and call the appropriate function on the callback contract
If you need to host your service in IIS, then the situation is trickier because you have the possibility of multiple processes hosting your service, so your list can potentially get fragmented (or blown away in the event of an app pool recycle). In this case, you'll have to use something external to your service (MSMQ, perhaps) to notify other application pool processes that a message needs to be sent.
In terms of a duplex connection, you are really just able to communicate two way over that one connection, not with all connections of the service without doing some tricky thread stuff and shutting the door on any scalability (or using something outside the service to handle to pub/sub).
One solution though that may work a lot more along the lines of what you want to do would be SignalR. It allows a single client to make a request and then you can broadcast data from that request to other clients (or target it). Take a look at its info, its sole purpose is real time communication in .NET with multiple clients.
Also another note, is that you will want to use some sort of BackgroundWorker or something for your listening thread in WinForms so that the UI is not locked while the background operations are running.
We have a number of Windows services running in our system (built in C#). We use WCF to communicate with them and control them, since WCF offers very convenient communication with these processes.
Right now in our Windows GUI for managing, monitoring and troubleshooting the services, we simply register callbacks and receive notifications when a message is available from the service. Obviously this application is stateful and WCF provides the ability for the local delegate to be called when the maintained connection to the service indicates.
In our web application which users actually use, we'd like to use long-polling to have a status area on the web page (iframe, AJAX, whatever) which shows any issues which the services are reporting. We'd like to use a long-polling or other technique which minimizes actual polling on the network.
The problem we are running up against is that we need something to make the long-polling HTTP request against which will somehow always be running in IIS and which itself can be WCF-connected to our services and which can convert the event/delegate-based WCF response into a blocking-style long-poll response. It feels like a chicken-and-egg situation that some component in our system is always going to be in a loop, polling - and that's exactly what we are trying to avoid.
Does anyone have an example of doing this?
Well, if your services present with WCF, why not simply consume the WCF services with javsacript? Then you remove your IIS servers from the equation completely. if a user wants to see what the services are doing then they can retrieve the information directly from the service.
Here's a blog with someone showing how to do this:Call wcf service from Json