Im looking at creating a service on a remote server that a win forms app can communicate with. (Where the forms app is running locally on user machines).
The service can either run in IIS (7.5) or as a windows service, but essentially I need to be able to call the service from the forms app and then have a stream of progress sent back to the forms app from the service, much like you would output to a Console window.
I've looked into using WCF which seems ideal except I couldn't find out whether I can relay progress updates back to the forms app. Also SignalR running as a self hosted windows service seems to be an option but might be overkill?
We'll be running the forms app on win7 and the remote server will be running server 2008.
Are you able to advise best routes to go down for this and if possible some examples or tutorial links?
Many thanks :-)
If you are looking for the application to relay back to the server for progress, seems you are looking for something like this:
WCF Duplex
It basicly enable you to call bi-directional function using open socket.
Hope it helps.
Thanks,
Amir
I have a project wherein i have to create a windows mobile app which synchronize files between two windows phone, provided that the connectivity between two phone should be through WiFi.
Being new to this app development field , i have no idea on where to start and where to look. Is there any sample application present to sync data between two phones without involving any database. And what API should i use. i referred to some tutorials on this website.
This won't be possible without a server between both phones. Microsoft is very restrictive and won't let you access the WiFi connection. Actually you would have to use one of the phones as a WiFi hotspot and the other one as client and this is definitely not possible with an WP app.
I would recommend to write a Windows Service (have a look at WCF) which both phones connect to. This service would have to do all the work which would be:
Wait for phone requests to work with them
Handle the request when a phone wants to synchronize data
Let the second phone know that there are new data to receive
Transfer data to the second phone
Actually there will be more requirements for such a service (e.g. security) you will have to deal with.
Yet, there is a solution because Rudy Huyn connected several Windows phone using the connection Wifi without server http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rl0VHkoOHTA
But I don't know how..
I have purchased a license of AddTapi.NET to simplify my development using TAPI in a product that runs as a Windows service. I was able to use the TAPI in a Windows GUI and console application and ported the code into my Windows service. At that point, I noted that the code which uses the speech API such as TapiCall.Speak or TapiCall.Play (wavefile) was not generating sound on the phone line and was remaining silent.
There are a couple of previous questions that may relate to my issue.
Question: Playing Voice over a modem from a Windows service indicated a problem using speech that was resolved by spawning a GUI thread in the Windows service. I attempted to do this but was unsuccessful in getting the speech to be heard on the phone.
Question: Access violation with Tapi in Windows service seems to indicate an initial problem with TAPI in a service yet was resolved by using the AddTapi product. The ticket does not explicitly mention the use of the speech API though (SAPI)
I am programming in C# using Visual Studio 2010 and .NET 4.0. I am trying to get this to work on Windows 7. I received an e-mail from AddTapi that indicated that Microsoft changed the security to disallow use of the voice subsystem from services in Win 2008 Server, Windows Vista, and Windows 7. The above articles seem to indicate some success with AddTapi although it may not be on Windows 7.
Given that the main system that I am working with is a Windows service (and child processes), what would seem to be the best approach to getting the speech to work. If I put the SAPI code in a console application, I would like this to be managed without requiring a user to be actively logged onto the computer. There is nothing graphical about my TAPI code. Should I take an approach similar to Article: Launching an interactive process and spawn an interactive process? Have there been any success stories using TAPI speech in a Windows service?
We resolved this problem in AddTapi.NET 5.0. Version 5.0 can use Speech API (TapiCall.Speak and TapiCall.Play) in Windows service applications. There is no need to use a separate process and the service can run under default Local Service account.
For everyone who doesn't use AddTapi.NET, the key is to use SAPI5 SpVoice object speaking to a custom stream. You cannot instantiate SpAudio or SpMMAudioOut objects in Windows service, so you will need to implement your own stream class and set SpVoice's output to that stream.
I had the same requirements as your project (TAPI in a Windows Service using AddTapi.NET). I also received the same response. I tried some of the other posts out there recommending that I run the application in a separate thread so I tool my entire solution and converted it to a WPF Application with a simple page that would never appear but had all the AddTapi configuration happening in the constructor.
NO SUCCESS.
The application would run fine when run from the WPF application but when the WPF page was instantiated in the STAThread enabled thread Play and Speak still would not work. I have been looking all over for an answer on this but there isn't anything but others stating that there really is no solution (no real solution).
Running my application through a seperate process simply won't cut it and since running in a seperate thread won't work either I'm going to have to consider running this application as a regular windows app (will require logon).
Wish I had a solution, sorry.
In a situation where you have the UI frontend built using the new Metro style of apps for windows 8, and would like it to communicate with a .NET application running on the desktop on the same local machine (e.g. a windows service app).
What forms of interprocess communication are available between the metro app and the desktop app?
Thanks to Pavel Minaev of the Visual Studio team, who has provided some initial info here in a comment, quoted:
According to Martyn Lovell, there isn't any deliberate mechanism for
that, and some that could be used for it are intentionally restricted.
Named pipes aren't there, for example, nor are memory mapped files.
There are sockets (including server sockets), but when connecting to
localhost, you can only connect to the same app. You could use normal
files in one of the shared "known folders" (Documents, Pictures etc),
but that is a fairly crude hack that necessitates polling and is
visible to the user. -- Pavel Minaev commenting on this issue
So failing normal approaches I was thinking of using web services or reading/writing to a database in order to get some form of communication happening, both of which seem like overkill when the processes are running on the same machine.
Is what I'm attempting here making sense? I can see a need for a metro app to be the frontend UI for an existing service which is running on the desktop. Or is it better to just use WPF for the frontend UI running on the desktop (i.e. a non-metro app).
I'm porting my existing project to Win8 right now. It consists of windows service and tray application which are talking to each other via NamedPipes WCF. As you may already know Metro doesn't support named pipes. I ended up using TcpBinding for full duplex connection.
This post describes what functionality is supported.
Sample of my WCF server that Metro client can consume is here.
Also keep in mind that you can't use synchronous WCF in Metro. You'll have to use Task-based wrapper which is only asynchronous.
And thank you for you question. I was good starting point for me :)
There were a number of questions like this at the end of a //build/ session I attended. Aleš Holeček, the exec who did one of the big picture sessions, came up out of the audience to handle them. Even if you're not a C++ developer, download that session and watch the Q & A. http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/TOOL-789C
Metro apps can't count on desktop apps or services being installed on the machine. And desktop apps can't count on Metro apps running since they can be suspended any time. You need to start thinking differently. Listen to Aleš on this one.
Take note that with Windows 8.1 Update, communication between Windows Store apps and desktop components written in C# for .NET 4.5+ is now officially supported for side-loaded applications in Enterprise scenarios:
Brokered Windows Runtime Components for side-loaded Windows Store apps
To quote:
Recognizing that critical business functions and rules are embodied in existing software assets and that enterprises have a wide variety of scenarios for which the new application style will be highly productive, the Windows 8.1 Update includes a new feature called Brokered Windows Runtime Components for side-loaded applications. We use the term IPC (inter-process communication) to describe the ability to run existing desktop software assets in one process (desktop component) while interacting with this code in a Windows Store app. This is a familiar model to enterprise developers as data base applications and applications utilizing NT Services in Windows share a similar multi-process architecture.
Although implementing this approach is a bit on the complicated side initially, it allows for deep integration across Windows Store and desktop components. Just keep in mind that for the time being, it won't pass public Windows Store certification.
There is an article on InfoQ about how to build loosely coupled Metro apps with protocol handlers. This is something which has been supported by Windows for a long time and one could foresee an desktop application register itself as a protocol handler and maybe the metro application can communicate through this mechanism.
I have no idea if this is possible, but it might be interesting to check out.
Christophe Nasarre has blogged about a rather hacky way to do it using local files. The result is communication between desktop app/windows store app (referred to as DA/WSA in the blog), without having to switch between the UI of the two apps. He also blogged about another less hacky technique involving protocol handlers.
Note that having a WSA which communicates with a DA is explicitly forbidden by the store App certification requirements
Windows Store apps must not communicate with local desktop applications or services via local mechanisms, including via files and registry keys.
... but it restricts "local mechanisms" only. So I guess one can build a web service for routing the communications.
If you think that you can make an additional manual cmd operation,
you can try :
X:/> CheckNetIsolation.exe LoopbackExempt –a –n=<packageID>;
CheckNetIsolation.exe is included in winRT install, so there is nothing extra to be installed.
I tried it: it works, even after package updating.
As shown on: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/Hh780593.aspx
Here it is explained how to find out the packageID for your app: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsdesktop/en-US/82bad7d4-d52b-4731-a396-13ab9004c1cc/how-to-get-the-appid-of-a-metro-style-app-
It is possible to communicate on the same machine from Metro app to desktop app using local service.
I've implemented some time ago simple "proof of concept", how to bypass the WinRT sandbox using local service. It still needs some kind of "social engineering" or direct guide for installing the service, but anyway, it is possible.
I'm not sure though about the certification rules about "local service" communication when adding such app to Windows Store.
Sample here
By design Metro application cannot access underlying PC directly, only using WinRT API and available capabilities. But when you create back-end service for accessing the PC and all data there, it's basically no longer running in sandbox.
The only "problem" is that user must manually install this back-end service, but that won't be a problem using some "social engineering":
User downloads "PC browser" Metro app, user can browse all pictures, music and videos, using WinRT API, but the app also shows message at the bottom:
"Download our PC browser powerpack and browse your entire PC, for FREE"
User is redirected to web page, from where user can download classic desktop installer containing "PC browser" back-end service for accessing files on users entire PC. Once this desktop service is installed, the Metro app can detect it and use it for browsing the entire PC. User is happy, but the WinRT sandbox is compromised.
Of course this won't work on Windows 8 ARM tablets. Using this workaround it could be even possible to build Metro app clients for classic desktop apps like antiviruses, torrent/P2P clients, etc.
Maybe I missed the point but when activating the Private networks capability I can connect to a local running (http) server using the local IP address (not localhost). This enables my scenario where a winrt app communicates with a wpf desktop app
I want to create an easy application for windows mobile devices, i have recently got a HTC HD2 and the connection is being eaten by the weather app, email accounts and windows live service :#
I am getting rather annoyed with this and well I have set myself a project to give myself a small piece of glory and create a working application that will Terminate an idle connection on my phone.
I am using C# and the latest WM6.5 sdk.
How do I access these controls?
You should use the ConnectionManager APIs to access device connections. It will create them or hand existing connections to your application. Closing a connection is actually very difficult to do (probably becasue it's not terribly nice to tear a connection out from under another running app) and has to be done via P/Invoking to RAS.