This should be an easy question, but I've been unable to solve it. I'm trying to change the Referral header prior to redirecting the page of an HttpResponse object. I know this can be done in an HttpWebResponse, but can't get this to work for a standard Page.Response.
I'm trying to just set the referer header to look like it originated from a temp page on my site (this is for analytics tracking for an external system).
Is this possible to do??
I've tried to use the code below (as well as variations such as Response.AppendHeader and Response.AddHeader), however the Referer always shows as the page that the Request initiated from.
Response.Headers.Add("Referer", "http://test.local/fromA");
Response.Redirect(HttpContext.Current.Request.Url.AbsoluteUri);
If not via .net can this be accomplished via js?
Thanks!
Referer is controlled (and sent) by the client. You can't affect it server-side. There may be some JavaScript that you could emit that'd get the client to do it - but it's probably considered a security flaw, so I wouldn't count on it.
The referrer is set by the client, not the server. It is useful to include in a request and not a response as it points to the URL where the request came from.
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I'm trying to query a delivery companies consignment status page, though it uses ASP.NET viewstate which when not supplied as parameters it does not return a result.
How can I reliably either:
Not submit the values, or submit blank values
Submit a constant value that is reliable.
The resource in question is http:// 61.9.216.242 /xlcoads/contrack.aspx
I've tried using cURL and been successful but I don't know if I need to change viewstate etc.
I've also contacted the company without luck in having a more ReSTful version of the site available.
First of all you are trying to do something which doesn't support it, therefore there will not be any standard method for doing it.
__VIEWSTATE and __EVENTVALIDATION is used by .net to provide a sense of statefulness over stateless protocol(Tcp/ip), but it is easy to fool it.
Your friends will be Firefox and firebug, Submit 4-5 different request and see the sent data in firebug, you will be able to figure out which datas are constant and which changes. When figured out, use webrequest to get the url data, then extract view state and other datas as needed make another webrequest to submit the modified data with the search string.
and yes I use this method for a site with the same problem.
Similar questions have been asked about the nature of when to use POST and when to use GET in an AJAX request
Here:
What are the advantages of using a GET request over a POST request?
and here: GET vs. POST ajax requests: When and how to use either?
However, I want to make it clear that that is not exactly what I am asking. I get idempotence, sensitive data, the ability for browsers to be able to try again in the event of an error, and the ability for the browser to be able to cache query string data.
My real scenario is such that I want to prevent my users from being able to simply enter in the URL to my "Compute.cshtml" file (i.e. the file on the server that my jQuery $.ajax function posts to).
I am in a WebMatrix C#.net web-pages environment and I have tried to precede the file name with an underscore (_), but apparently an AJAX request falls under the same criteria that this underscore was designed to prevent the display of and it, of course, breaks the request.
So if I use POST I can simply use this logic:
if (!IsPost) //if this is not a post...
{
Response.Redirect("~/") //...redirect back to home page.
}
If I use GET, I suppose I can send additional data like a string containing the value "AccessGranted" and check it on the other side to see if it equals this value and redirect if not, but this could be easily duplicated through typing in the address bar (not that the data is sensitive on the other side, but...).
Anyway, I suppose I am asking if it is okay to always use POST to handle this logic or what the appropriate way to handle my situation is in regards to using GET or POST with AJAX in a WebMatrix C#.net web-pages environment.
My advice is, don't try to stop them. It's harmless.
You won't have direct links to it, so it won't really come up. (You might want your robots.txt to exclude the whole /api directory, for Google's sake).
It is data they have access to anyway (otherwise you need server-side trimming), so you can't be exposing anything dangerous or sensitive.
The advantages in using GETs for GET-like requests are many, as you linked to (caching, semantics, etc)
So what's the harm in having that url be accessible via direct browser entry? They can POST directly too, if they're crafty enough, using Fiddler "compose" for example. And having the GETs be accessible via url is useful for debugging.
EDIT: See sites like http://www.robotstxt.org/orig.html for lots of details, but a robots.txt that excluded search engines from your web services directory called /api would look like this:
User-agent: *
Disallow: /api/
Similar to IsPost, you can use IsAjax to determine whether the request was initiated by the XmlHttpRequest object in most browsers.
if(!IsAjax){
Response.Redirect("~/WhatDoYouThinkYoureDoing.cshtml");
}
It checks the request to see if it has an X-Requested-With header with the value of XmlHttpRequest, or if there is an item in the Request object with the key X-Requested-With that has a value of XmlHttpRequest.
One way to detect a direct AJAX call is to check for the presence of the http_referer header. Directly typed URLs won't generate a referrer, but you still won't be able to differentiate the call from a simple anchor link.
(Just keep in mind that some browsers don't generate the header for XHR requests.)
I have learned to use http request (create and Getresponse) methods to get the header and content of a link.
Problem is that, it is not the link that I want, that I get as http response.
There is an authentication page that comes instead. Only when I click the accept button, do I reach the page I want.
So the header and content that I actually get is of the authentication page.
Is there a way I can use this header and content to create ones more http request to get the page that I want?
I need to click the accept button in the background.
Thanks.
I'd recommend using Fiddler to capture the interaction with the site using a browser. You can then use the Fiddler output as a guide for replicating the same functionality using your code.
If the site is keeping track of whether or not each user has clicked the Accept button on a per-session basis you'll need to replicate that, probably with an HTTP POST. You'll be able to see how to construct that POST, if relevant, from the Fiddler output.
I have an idea for an App that would really help me out in work but I'm not sure if it's possible.
I want to run a C# desktop application that will ask for a value. When a value is supplied, the application will open a browswer, go to a webpage and add the value into a form on an online website. The form is then submitted and a new page is loaded that contains a table of results. I then want to extract the table of results from the page source and write code to parse the result values.
It is not important that the user see's this happen in an actual browser. In other words if there's a way to do it by reading HTTP requests then thats great.
The biggest problem I have is getting the values into the form and then retrieving the page source after the form is submitted and the next page loads.
Any help really appreciated.
Thanks
Provided that you're only using this in a legal context:
Usually, web forms are sent via POST request to the web server, specifically some script that handles it. You can look at the HTML code for the form's page and find out the destination for the form (form's action).
You can then use a HttpWebRequest in C# to "pretend you are the form", sending a POST request with all the required parameters (adding them to the HTTP header).
As a result you will get the source code of the destination page as it would be sent to the browser. You can parse this.
This is definitely possible and you don't need to use an actual web browser for this. You can simply use a System.Net.WebClient to send your HTTP request and get an HTTP response.
I suggest to use wireshark (or you can use Firefox + Firebug) it allows you to see HTTP requests and responses. By looking at the HTTP traffic you can see exactly how you should pass your HTTP request and which parameters you should be setting.
You don't need to involve the browser with this. WebClient should do all that you require. You'll need to see what's actually being posted when you submit the form with the browser, and then you should be able to make a POST request using the WebClient and retrieve the resulting page as a string.
The docs for the WebClient constructor have a nice example.
See e.g. this question for some pointers on at least the data retrieval side. You're going to know a lot more about the http protocol before you're done with this...
Why would you do this through web pages if you don't even want the user to do anything?
Web pages are purely for interaction with users, if you simply want data transfer, use WCF.
#Brian using Wireshark will result in a very angry network manager, make sure you are actually allowed to use it.
I'm using a C# WebClient to post login details to a page and read the all the results.
The page I am trying to load includes flash (which, in the browser, translates into HTML). I'm guessing it's flash to avoid being picked up by search engines???
The flash I am interested in is just text (not an image/video) etc and when I "View Selection Source" in firefox I do actually see the text, within HTML, that I want to see.
(Interestingly when I view the source for the whole page I do not see the text, within HTML, that I want to see. Could this be related?)
Currently after I have posted my login details, and loaded the HTML back, I see the page which does NOT show the flash HTML (as if I had viewed source for the whole page).
Thanks in advance,
Jim
PS: I should point out that the POST is actually working, my log in is successful.
Fiddler (or similar tool) is invaluable to track down screen-scraping problems like this. Using a normal browser and with fiddler active, look at all the requests being made as you go through the login and navigation process to get to the data you want. In between, you will likely see one or more things that your code is doing differently which the server is responding to and hence showing you different HTML than a real client.
The list of stuff below (think of it as "scraping 101") is what you want to look for. Most of the stuff below is probably stuff you're already doing, but I included everything for completeness.
In order to scrape effectively, you may need to deal with one or more of the following:
cookies and/or hidden fields. when you show up at any page on a site, you'll typically get a session cookie and/or hidden form field which (in a normal browser) would be propagated back to the server on all subsequent requests. You will likely also get a persistent cookie. On many sites, if a requests shows up without a proper cookie (or form field for sites using "cookieless sessions"), the site will redirect the user to a "no cookies" UI, a login page, or another undesirable location (from the scraper app's perspective). always make sure you capture the cookies set on the initial request and faithfully send them back to the server on subsequent requests, except if one of those subsequent requests changes a cookie (in which case propagate that new cookie instead).
authentication tokens a special case of above is forms-authentication cookies or hidden fields. make sure you're capturing the login token (usually a cookie) and sending it back.
POST vs. GET this is obvious, but make sure you're using the same HTTP method that a real browser does.
form fields (esp. hidden ones!) I'm sure you're doing this already, but make sure to send all form fields that a real browser does, not just the visible fields. make sure fields are HTML-encoded properly.
HTTP headers. you already checked this, but it may make sense to check again just to make sure the (non-cookie) headers are identical. I always start with the exact same headers and then start pulling out headers one by one, and only keep the ones that cause the request to fail or return bogus data. this approach simplifies your scraping code.
redirects. These can either come from the server, or from client script (e.g. "if user doesn't have flash plug-in loaded, redirect to a non-flash page"). See WebRequest: How to find a postal code using a WebRequest against this ContentType="application/xhtml+xml, text/xml, text/html; charset=utf-8"? for a crazy example of how redirection can trip up a screen-scraper. Note that if you're using .NET for scraping, you'll need to use HttpWebRequest (not WebClient) for redirect-dependent scraping, because by default WebClient doesn't provide a way for your code to attach cookies and headers to the second (post-redirect) request. See the thread above for more details.
sub-requests (frames, ajax, flash, etc.) - often, page elements (not the main HTTP requests) will end up fetching the data you want to scrape. you'll be able to figure this out by looking which HTTP response contains the text you want, and then working backwards until you find what on the page is actually making the request for that content. A few sites do really crazy things in sub-requests, like requesting compressed or encrypted text via ajax, and then using client-side script to decrypt it. if this is the case, you'll need to do a bit more work like reverse-engineering what the client script is doing.
ordering - this one is obvious: make HTTP requests in the same order that a browser client does. that doesn't mean you need to make every request (e.g. images). Typically you only need to make the requests which return text/html content type, unless the data you want is not in the HTML and is in an ajax/flash/etc. request.
(Interestingly when I view the source for the whole page I do not see the text, within HTML, that I want to see. Could this be related?)
This usually means that the discrepancy is caused by some DOM manipulations via javascript after the page has loaded. Try turning off javascript and see what it looks like.