I am currently trying to develop a small simulation program in xna that takes a model and breaks it up into several smaller pieces.
The only way I was thinking would be to take the original object, copy it, then remove a chunk from one (using a pre-built model) using subtraction boolean, then perform an intersect boolean operation on the other, and presto, two objects which together look like the original, but can be separated individually.
The only issue is, I have no idea how to do it, or if it is even possible.
I would prefer to use XNA, but I'd be open to using any other free/open source 3d engine if anyone knows how. Preferably something with a nice simple .net wrapper, but probably not.
Robust boolean operations on solids are outside of the scope of a graphics engine like XNA.
One I've used before is open cascade
A lot depends on the complexity of your models. Maybe opencascade is overkill for what you are trying to accomplish. It is intended for CAD environments.
I found this old sourceforge project, which might help:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/djxcbo/
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I'm working on an XNA project, for the Xbox 360.
For this I have built an extensive UI library, all with relative positions, dozens of controls and stuff like that.
At the moment of speaking, all the design elements are created in page classes, which is a lot of code (think of margins, aligns, labels, and so on).
So I was thinking, shouldn't it be possible, to create a file, like a XAML file for example, and using C#, parse it to objects?
XNAML uses this kind of approach (I think), so I know it must be possible, I'm just wondering how. I could go with the approach of parsing the file manually line by line, and creating every object, but I think this would be pretty complex & nasty code, considering the amount of different objects. Any input is greatly appreciated!
F.Y.I., XNAML is deprecated (I even think it never went live)
I love electronic music and I am interested in how it all ticks.
I've found lots of helpful questions on Stack Overflow on libraries that can be used to play with audio, filters etc. But what I am really curious about is what is actually hapening: how is the data being passed between effects and oscillators? I have done research into the mathematical side of dsp and I've got that end of the problem sussed but I am unsure what buffering system to use etc. The final goal is to have a simple object heirarchy of effects and oscillators that pass the data between each other (maybe using multithreading if I don't end up pulling out all my hair trying to implement it). It's not going to be the next Propellerhead Reason but I am interested in how it all works and this is more of an exercise than something that will yeild an end product.
At the moment I use .net and C# and I have recently learnt F# (which may or may not lead to some interesting ways of handling the data) but if these are not suitable for the job I can learn another system if necessary.
The question is: what is the best way to get the large amounts of signal data through the program using buffers? For instance would I be better off using a Queue, Array,Linked List etc? Should I make the samples immutable and create a new set of data each time I apply an effect to the system or just edit the values in the buffer? Shoud I have a dispatcher/thread pool style object that organises passing data or should the effect functions pass data directly between each other?
Thanks.
EDIT: another related question is how would I then use the windows API to play this array? I don't really want to use DirectShow because Microsoft has pretty much left it to die now
EDIT2: thanks for all the answers. After looking at all the technologies I will either use XNA 4(I spent a while trawling the internet and found this site which explains how to do it) or NAudio to output the music... not sure which one yet, depends on how advanced the system ends up being. When C# 5.0 comes out I will use its async capabilities to create an effects architecture on top of that. I've pretty much used everybody's answer equally so now I have a conundrum of who to give the bounty to...
Have you looked at VST.NET (http://vstnet.codeplex.com/)? It's a library to write VST using C# and it has some examples. You can also consider writing a VST, so that your code can be used from any host application (but even if you don't want, looking at their code can be useful).
Signal data is usually big and requires a lot of processing. Do not use a linked list! Most libraries I know simply use an array to put all the audio data (after all, that's what the sound card expect).
From a VST.NET sample:
public override void Process(VstAudioBuffer[] inChannels, VstAudioBuffer[] outChannels)
{
VstAudioBuffer audioChannel = outChannels[0];
for (int n = 0; n < audioChannel.SampleCount; n++)
{
audioChannel[n] = Delay.ProcessSample(inChannels[0][n]);
}
}
The audioChannel is a wrapper around an unmanaged float* buffer.
You probably store your samples in an immutable array. Then, when you want to play them, you copy the data in the output buffer (change the frequency if you want) and perform effects in this buffer. Note you can use several output buffers (or channels) and sum them at the end.
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I know two low-level ways to play your array: DirectSound and WaveOut from Windows API. C# Example using DirectSound. C# example with WaveOut. However, you might prefer use an external higher-level library, like NAudio. NAudio is convenient for .NET audio manipulation - see this blog post for sending a sine wave to the audio card. You can see they are also using an array of float, which is what I recommend (if you do your computations using bytes, you'll end up with a lot of aliasing in the sound).
F# is probably a good choice here, as it's well fitted to manipulate functions. Functions are probably good building blocks for signal creation and processing.
F# is also good at manipulating collections in general, and arrays in particular, thanks to the higher-order functions in the Array module.
These qualities make F# popular in the finance sector and are also useful for signal processing, I would guess.
Visual F# 2010 for Technical Computing has a section dedicated to Fourier Transform, which could be relevant to what you want to do. I guess there is plenty of free information about the transform on the net, though.
Finally, to play samples, you can use XNA. I think the latest version of the API (4.0) also allows recording, but I have never used that. There is a famous music editing app for the Xbox called ezmuse+ Hamst3r Edition that uses XNA, so it's definitely possible.
With respect to buffering and asynchrony/threading/synchronization issues I suggest you to take a look at the new TPL Data Flow library. With its block primitives, concurrent data structures, data flow networks, async message prcessing, and TPL's Task based abstraction (that can be used with the async/await C# 5 features), it's a very good fit for this type of applications.
I don't know if this is really what you're looking for, but this was one of my personal projects while in college. I didn't truly understand how sound and DSP worked until I implemented it myself. I was trying to get as close to the speaker as possible, so I did it using only libsndfile, to handle the file format intricacies for me.
Basically, my first project was to create a large array of doubles, fill it with a sine wave, then use sf_writef_double() to write that array to a file to create something that I could play, and see the result in a waveform editor.
Next, I added another function in between the sine call, and the write call, to add an effect.
This way you start playing with very low-level oscillators and effects, and you can see the results immediately. Plus, it's very little code to get something like this working.
Personally, I would start with the simplest possible solution you can, then slowly add on. Try just writing out to a file and using your audio player to play it, so you don't have to deal with the audio apis. Just use a single array to start, and modify-in-place. Definitely start off single-threaded. As your project grows, you can start moving to other solutions, like pipes instead of the array, multi-threading it, or working with the audio API.
If you're wanting to create a project you can ship, depending on exactly what it is, you'll probably have to move to more complex libraries, like some real-time audio processing. But the basics you learn by doing the simple way above will definitely help when you get to this point.
Good luck!
I've done quite a bit of real-time DSP, although not with audio. While either of your ideas (immutable buffer) vs (mutable buffer modified in place) could work, what I prefer to do is create a single permanent buffer for each link in the signal path. Most effects don't lend themselves well to modification in place, since each input sample affects multiple output samples. The buffer-for-each-link technique works especially well when you have resampling stages.
Here, when samples arrive, the first buffer is overwritten. Then the first filter reads the new data from its input buffer (the first buffer) and writes to its output (the second buffer). Then it invokes the second stage to read from the second buffer and write into the third.
This pattern completely eliminates dynamic allocation, allows each stage to keep a variable amount of history (since effects need some memory), and is very flexible as far as enabling rearranging the filters in the path.
Alright, I'll have a stab at the bounty as well then :)
I'm actually in a very similar situation. I've been making electronic music for ages, but only over the past couple of years I've started exploring actual audio processing.
You mention that you have researched the maths. I think that's crucial. I'm currently fighting my way through Ken Steiglitz' A Digital Signal Processing Primer - With Applications to Digital Audio and Computer Music. If you don't know your complex numbers and phasors it's going to be very difficult.
I'm a Linux guy so I've started writing LADSPA plugins in C. I think it's good to start at that basic level, to really understand what's going on. If I was on Windows I'd download the VST SDK from Steinberg and write a quick proof of concept plugin that just adds noise or whatever.
Another benefit of choosing a framework like VST or LADSPA is that you can immediately use your plugins in your normal audio suite. The satisfaction of applying your first home-built plugin to an audio track is unbeatable. Plus, you will be able to share your plugins with other musicians.
There are probably ways to do this in C#/F#, but I would recommend C++ if you plan to write VST plugins, just to avoid any unnecessary overhead. That seems to be the industry standard.
In terms of buffering, I've been using circular buffers (a good article here: http://www.dspguide.com/ch28/2.htm). A good exercise is to implement a finite response filter (what Steiglitz refers to as a feedforward filter) - these rely on buffering and are quite fun to play around with.
I've got a repo on Github with a few very basic LADSPA plugins. The architectural difference aside, they could potentially be useful for someone writing VST plugins as well. https://github.com/andreasjansson/my_ladspa_plugins
Another good source of example code is the CSound project. There's tonnes of DSP code in there, and the software is aimed primarily at musicians.
Start with reading this and this.
This will give you idea on WHAT you have to do.
Then, learn DirectShow architecture - and learn HOW not to do it, but try to create your simplified version of it.
You could have a look at BYOND. It is an environment for programmatic audio / midi instrument and effect creation in C#. It is available as standalone and as VST instru and effect.
FULL DISCLOSURE I am the developer of BYOND.
i wanted to know how to edit 3d models' vertices in XNA at runtime, i wana do something like the 3d max subtract feature where u put 2 models together and delete the intersecting vertices of 1 of them, more like carving one mesh with the other.
see this if i wasn't clear
anyway so any pointers on how to edit vertices at runtime or any help is really really appreciated.
thanks
You can't do that.
AFAIK, OpenGL, DirectX and XNA have no utility functions for boolean operations on triangulated meshes (if they had those, we would be seeing fully destructible environments in every game on the market). If you want to do that, you'll have to implement boolean operations yourself. It will be EXTREMELY difficult (especially dealing with topology), and I mean it (tried to do that, will implement them someday (as exercise) when I have more time).
Or you could try adapting/using source code from blender or libgts. BOth of them have implemented boolean operations, but they are written in C/C++, not in C#, so it will be "fun" no matter how you look at it. Also, be careful about licenses if you decide to use their code. Both use flavors of GPL, and GPL is "viral" license.
I need to visualize a graph. I don't know how to name it (by the way, if you know - I'll appreciate if you tell me). It would be ideal for graph elements to be clickable (so that when user clicks on a block, I can handle an event with the element id specified) but I can survive even without any interactivity. I may like to be able to focus on a particular node and layout all others to view from its perspective. Are there any components available good for this task? If no, what should I look for to help me to develop an algorithm for drawing such a graph with visually-comfortable layout?
Practical nature of this graph is pretty common: each block represents a derivation from 2 operands. Orange circles are references to 2 operands, green circles are connection points to consumers. It can be significant to distinguish an operand position (left or right), for example if a derivation represents a mathematical operation of difference or division (in this particular case a block can be triangular, but in other cases an operand itself can make use of being aware of for what blocks is it a left operand and for what blocks is it a right). Another common application is intersecting sets with complex relations.
You could take a look at Graph#, but I'm not sure how well it'll handle composite nodes like that. It could be a good starting point though.
I also would like to point you to graphviz. It is not a .NET solution but you can feed it files that are easy enough to write in order to create graphs. I don't think layouting is a very simple thing to do, especially with increasing node count, so it should be a good thing to find some tool for that.
As It seems Microsoft itself has done a really good job on graph visualization called automatic-graph-layout.
Here's the link https://github.com/microsoft/automatic-graph-layout.
Well, you first need to represent it somehow in memory, there are many ways, like adjacency list. Then you need to draw it. While generally drawing a graph is simple, it's not that simple if you need to layout it. Looks like in your case, that's exactly what you need to do to come to that nice representation. It ain't going to be easy.
EDIT: Interesting, there seems to be a library made by Microsoft Research.
I don't know how useful it will be in this particular scenario, but you might want to take a look at http://quickgraph.codeplex.com/
Graphviz4Net provides WPF component for graphs visualization. It depends on GraphViz (open source command line graph visualization tool).
I can not find this component and i decided writen my own control, line and head, and use them to visualization my graph's
If the needed your i can give it's component and program to demonstrate him/
I writen component and program's in visual studio 2008 language C#
This is a fairly new and maintained .NET wrapper for Graphviz: https://github.com/Rubjerg/Graphviz.NetWrapper
(Disclaimer: I'm the author)
This wrapper works differently from other wrappers, since it makes direct function calls to the native Graphviz code. This means you can not only programatically construct your graph in C# code, but also read the layout attributes back out in C# code and render it any way you want. The latter sounds specifically like something you would be interested in.
A quite good looking one is the Diagram tool from Nevron. But it's not for free!
I'm currently using the charts and user interfaces from them and they work quite good.
Have used this commercial product with success: GoDiagram
It support the multiple ports on the nodes like you have shown.
I am trying to determine that if (before I start) on a new project I can pick some suitable patterns which will help with development as the project gets more complicated.
The Scenario
To have an application that draws 'simple' lines on the screen. Ideally encompassed into a 'Render Engine' which I can package into Silverlight, WPF demo applications etc.
I also require editor application that uses the render engine to do the bulk of the displaying, however provides additional functionality like control points for moving the lines about the screen & Dialogs for changing the colours of the lines etc.
The Goal
To keep the render engine specalised and efficient. The editor should be able to 'inject' the additional functionality (i.e. display of control points) into the objects used by the rendering engine, or into the render engine itself. I don't want to code any editor specific code into the render engine.
My thoughts so far
I'm thinking of using an encapsulation/template pattern for the objects that will be used by the rendering engine, somehow allowing the editor application to supply a class to the object which 'tacks on' the functionality for the control points (and for example the event handling for moving of the control points).
My reason behind liking this idea is that the rendering engine never need know about the environment in which it is working. The editor can be changed extensively without ever having to change the rendering engine (hopefully).
But....
I may be wrong, if anyone can see any pitfalls, or has experience of better ways to tackling this problem I would love to hear them!
I agree with Charlie that you should start with a simple design prototype and extend it as needed (that's how I started with my map rendering engine). I can give you a few suggestions though:
Separate the drawing engine from the rest of the code (here's an example how). By the drawing engine I mean the code that actually draws something on the screen/bitmap. It should consume drawing primitives, not some higher-level entities. This way you'll be able to switch the drawing engine easily (example: SVG, PDF, GDI, WPF...)
If you want to have an editor, one of the patterns that are useful is the State pattern
Well shoot, that's an impressive amount of forethought.
My philosophy has always been, use a design pattern when you need to use one. Otherwise you may become an architecture astronaut, designing grand schemes all for naught. It's good that you're thinking about design before development, but really, how much can you possibly know about the project before any code has been written? Just about nothing. And if you force yourself into a pattern before any code has been written, you may end up jamming a square peg into a round hole for the entire lifecycle of the application.
My advice to you: write a prototype first. Quick and dirty. No real design; just make a skeleton that walks. Learn from it. If you thought of a better way, scrap the original and redesign a new one. Use design patterns that make sense as you add functionality, not for the sake of adding functionality.