GUI Programming Language - c#

Don't worry, I'm not going to ask that question, yet again...
I am wanting to create my own programming language, just for learning sake.
I don't want anything other than possibly a few links to head me into the right direction.
MSDN Documentation on C# that is specific to what is required to create a language would be great!
For the time being, all I am wanting to create is a very simple language that allows me to Create a Form, add a control to it, give that control a location, and maybe even some properties like a Text property, or maybe even a Color property. That's it!
Any help / advice at all is greatly appreciated!
Thank you :)

You want a language or some GUI libraries?
They are a little different, you know?
For a language you could start here:
http://www1.idc.ac.il/tecs/plan.html
(it's a complete course)
or there is this:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc136756.aspx
This is for targetting the .net VM, so you don't have to create the VM, and it seems to be very "down to earth"

As for language design, start with something simple. Have a look at Tcl/Tk (http://tcl.tk) for a very simple yet surprisingly powerful language/GUI toolkit design.

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VS2010 extension help

I have an extension idea, but I don't know where the first step is. I know that using design view, in conjunction with properties, I can get an event list for a control.
I want to write something that would show me a context menu in source view on something like OnClick="Button1_Click" and generate an empty event method in code behind complete with args.
(the equivalant of double clicking a button in design view)
I've never coded against the IDE itself, and I'm not having any luck finding a jumping off point, but I relly want some info that relates to that 'events' section of the properties box.
EDIT: why am I getting negative numbers for asking a question, am I asking it wrong?
MSDN will help :) See these pages on how to provide a custom properties window.
However, it won't be just as easy as your example, unfortunately. There's quite a bit of infrastructure to deal with when programming VS extensions. I'd recommend reading up on VS Integration on MSDN.
Ok, so admittedly, I did not ever figure out how to do this. However, I've just read the VS11 will be doing this. I am happy to see that M$ has added this functionality going forward. They've also added smart tags to the html view, which means maybe never having to go to design view again!
More Details Here:
http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2011/08/31/html-editor-smart-tasks-and-event-handler-generation-asp-net-vnext-series.aspx

Giving Visual Studio and WPF overview guidance

I'm giving a demo and instroduction of Visual Studio, C# and WPF to C++ on Linux developers that will be soon coding in C#. My plan is to go over a demo application that explains some basics in C#/WPF and an overview of some of the VS options.
Does anyone have any suggestions on conducting the demo?
Any good websites that can help with overviews?
Suggestions:
Keep the mood light and easy. They are probably already in bad mood after being told to throw away a good part of their skills and learn a completely different way in order to keep their job.
I really hope you are also a c++/linux developer. You'll need to relate to them somehow. If not, consider letting someone else give this intro. If they start complaining in the demo you'll have to know how to bring them back inline.
Make sure your demo shows something of real value to them. For example, "I know you guys solve problem X this way, but with WPF/C# that problem is so much easier because..."
The whole thing better be relevant to the fundamental reason why they are being forced to switch. Cover this, in detail. Make sure you answer their questions completely. Be prepared to have your demo derailed by questions. This could be a Good Thing(TM) as it would hopefully show real engagment.. as long as you keep it positive.
Make sure that you have ZERO flaws in your presentation. Any will be ripped apart, made to appear bigger than it is, and subsequently used as a reason why they shouldn't switch.
Under no circumstance should you argue with any of them. See suggestion #1.
Consider enlisting one of "them" to help put the demo together. Let that person guide some of the covered topics. This goes a long way towards good will; which you'll need in spades.
I'm making a big assumption that they weren't the ones who drove the decision to switch. Given the target, it's probably a safe assumption but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

how to transition from C# to python?

i feel like i'm going back to the stone age.
how do i relearn to develop without intellisense (pydev intellisense doesn't count).. in general, how does one successfully leave the comfort of visual studio ?
I recently learned python with a strong C# background.
My advise: Just do it. Sorry, couldn't resist but I'm also serious. Install python and read: Python.org documentation (v2.6). A book might help too -- I like the Python PhraseBook. From there, I started using python to implement solutions for various things. Most notably, ProjectEuler.net questions.
It forced me to consider the languages and built in data structures.
Python is truly easy to use and intuitive. To learn the basics, took me about an hour. To get pretty good with it, took around 5 hours. Of course, there is always more to learn.
Also, I want to note that I would discourage using IronPython or Jython because I feel learning core, regular python is the first step.
Python has rich "introspection" features. In particular, you can find out a lot about built-in features using a command called help() from the Python command line.
Suppose you want to use regular expressions, and want to find out how to use them.
>>> import re
>>> help(re)
You get a nice display of information, automatically shown to you a page at a time (hit the space bar to see the next page).
If you already know you want to use the sub() function from the re module, you can get help on just that:
>>> help(re.sub)
And this help() feature will even work on your own code, as long as you define Python docstrings for your modules, classes, and functions.
You can enable features in the vim editor (or gvim, or vim for Windows) that enable an "IntelliSense"-like autocompletion feature, and you can use Exuberant Ctags to generate hyperlink "tags" to let you navigate quickly through your code. These turn vim into something that is roughly as powerful as an IDE, with the full power of vim for editing. (There isn't an explicit refactoring tool built in to vim, but there are options available.
And as others have noted, you can get IDEs for Python too. I've used the Wingware IDE, and I recommend it. I try to do most of my work with free, open-source software, but that is one piece of proprietary software I would be willing to buy. I have also used Eclipse with the Pydev plugin (I used its refactoring tool and it worked fine).
P.S. Python has a richer feature set than C#, albeit at the cost that your code won't run as fast. Once you get used to Python, you won't feel like you are in the stone age anymore.
One step at a time?
Start off with simple programs (things you can write with your eyes closed in C#), and keep going... You will end up knowing the API by heart.
<rant>
This is sort of the reason that I think being a good visual studio user makes you a bad developer. Instead of learning an API, you look in the object browser until you find something that sounds more or less like what you are looking for, instantiate it, then hit . and start looking for what sounds like the right thing to use. While this is very quick, it also means it takes forever to learn an API in any depth, which often means you end up either re-inventing the wheel (because the wheel is buried under a mountain worth of household appliances and you had no idea it was there), or just doing things in a sub-optimal way. Just because you can find A solution quickly, doesn't mean it is THE BEST solution.
</rant>
In the case of .NET, which ships with about a billion APIs for everything under the sun, this is actually preferred. You need to sift through a lot of noise to find what you are aiming for.
Pythonic code favors one, obvious way to do any given thing. This tends to make the APIs very straight forward and readable. The trick is to learn the language and learn the APIs. It is not terribly hard to do, especially in the case of python, and while not being able to rely on intellisense may be jarring at first, it shouldn't take more then a week or two before you get used to it not being there.
Learn the language and the basic standard libraries with a good book. When it comes to a new library API, I find the REPL and some exploratory coding can get me to a pretty good understanding of what is going on fairly quickly.
You could always start with IronPython and continue to develop in Visual Studio.
The python ide from wingware is pretty nice. Thats what I ended up using going from visual studio C++/.net to doing python.
Don't worry about intellisense. Python is really simple and there really isn't that much to know, so after a few projects you'll be conceiving of python code while driving, eating, etc., without really even trying. Plus, python's built in text editor (IDLE) has a wimpy version of intellisense that has always been more than sufficient for my purposes. If you ever go blank and want to know what methods/properties and object has, just type this in an interactive session:
dir(myobject)
Same way you do anything else that doesn't have IntelliStuff.
I'm betting you wrote that question without the aid of an IntelliEnglish computer program that showed you a list of verbs you could use and automatically added punctuation at the end of your sentences, for example. :-)
I use Eclipse and PyDev, most of the time, and the limited auto-completion help that it provides is pretty useful.
It's not ever going to come up to the level of VS's IntelliSense, and it can't, because of the dynamic nature of Python. But there are compensations, big ones.
The biggest is the breaking of the code-compile-test cycle. It's so easy to write and test prototype code in IDLE that very often it's where I go first: I'll sketch out and test a couple of methods that have to interoperate, figure out that there's something I don't know, learn it, fix my test, and then port the whole thing over to PyDev and watch it work the first time.
Another is that it's a lot simpler. It's really important to know what the standard modules are, and what they do, but for the most part that can be picked up with a little reading. I only use a small handful of modules in my everyday programming - itertools, os, csv (yeah, well), datetime, StringIO - and everything else is there if I need it, but usually I don't.
The stuff that it's really important to know is stuff that IntelliSense couldn't help you with anyway. Auto-completion isn't going to make
self.__dict__.update(kwargs)
make a damn bit of sense; you have to learn what an amazing line of code that is, and why you'd write it, by yourself.
Then you'll think, "how would I even begin to implement something like that in C#?" and realize that the tools these stone-age people are using are a little more sophisticated than you think.
A mistake people coming from C# or Java make a lot is recreate a large class hierarchy like is common in those languages. With Python this is almost never useful. Instead, learn about duck typing. And don't worry too much about the lack of static typing: in practice, it's almost never an issue.
I'm not too familiar with Python so I'll give some general advice. Make sure to print out some reference pages of common functions. Keep them by you(or pinned to a wall or desk) at all times when your programming.. I'm traditionally a "stone age" developer and after developing in VS for a few months I'm finding my hobby programming is difficult without intellisense.. but keep at it to memorize the most common functions and eventually it'll just be natural
You'll also have to get use to a bit more "difficult" of debugging(not sure how that works with python)
While your learning though, you should enjoy the goodness(at least compared to C#) of Python even if you don't have intellisense.. hopefully this will motivate you!
I've only ever used IDLE for python development and it is not fun in the least. I would recommend getting your favorite text editor, mine is notepad++, and praying for a decent plugin for it. I only ever had to go from Eclipse to Visual Studio so my opinions are generally invalid in these contexts.
Pyscripter does a reasonable job at auto-completion/intellisense. I've been using it recently as I started to learn Python/Django, where I've been mainly a C# developer for the last few years.
I suggest going cold turkey - languages like Python shine with great text editors. Choose one you want to become amazing at (vim, emacs, etc.) and never look back.
I use Komodo Edit and it does reasonably good guessing at the autocompletion.
Others have suggested several editors that have intellisense-like capabilities. Try them out.
Also install ipython and use that to learn the language interactively. It is like a souped up version of the regular python interactive shell with lots and lots of added capabilities, and one of the most useful it its extensive context sensitive tab-completion and help.
For example if you type
import r<tab>
it will show all the modules you can import starting with r
import re
re.<tab>
will show all the objects in the re module
re.compile?
will show the docstring and other information about the re.compile function, automatically piping it through a pager if it is longer than a screenful.
re.compile??
will show the source code as well, if available.
Using this I find it is much faster to switch to ipython and query objects directly than it is to look up anything in the docs. You have access to the usual python help() system as well.
ipython has lots and lots of other features - far too many to cover in a short post.

Learning about Hidden Features

Today I found out about an interface I'd never heard of before: IGrouping
IEnumerable<IGrouping<YourCategory, YourDataItem>>
I am fortunate to have access to some of the best programming books available, but seldom do I come across these kinds of gems in those books. Blogs and podcasts work, but that approach is somewhat scattershot. Is there a better way to learn these things, or do I need to sift through the entire MSDN library to discover them?
Eric Lippert's blog. The real guts of C# - why there are some limitations which might seem arbitrary at first sight, how design decisions are made, etc.
Alternatively, for more variety, look at the Visual C# Developer Center - there's a whole range of blogs and articles there.
Oh, and read the C# spec. No, I mean it - some bits can be hard to wade through (I'm looking at you, generic type inference!) but there's some very interesting stuff in there.
The best place to start is Jon Skeet's C# Coding blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/jon_skeet/
He regularly covers stuff you won't see anywhere else.
How about the Hidden Features series of questions?
Hidden Features of C#
Hidden Features of ASP.NET
And many more...
I personally like the way of discovering hidden features on my own while solving a specific problem. In the end, a hidden feature that you never needed to get something done is of questionable value. It just adds clutter to the brain.
The way to do it is to use the MSDN library to look things up. Then take a little time to look around what you found.
That's especially important with the pure API documentation. For instance, I just browsed to http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.xml.xmlreader.aspx (note how that URL is formed). When I look in the Contents pane on the left, I see everything from XmlDocument (and XmlDocumentFragment) all the way down to XmlReader. In the middle are some things I rarely or never use, like XmlNamespaceScope and XmlNodeOrder.
From time to time, spend a little time on "abstract knowledge". Sometimes, it's good to look up from the trees to learn your way around the forest. You never know when you'll need something you've learned to get you out of the woods.
For the people who don't know IGrouping:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb344977.aspx
I often read useful stuff on the Viual Studio Startup page and start clicking around to other keywords/areas. Not too promote StackOverflow too much, but you'll find some hidden gems here as well, simply by looking at how other people write code.
For example:
Hidden Features of C#?

Algorithm visualization for C#

Is there any software that visualizes algorithms from code? As a flow chart of something similar. Not dependencies, inheritance and that kind of thing, but the code inside a function, or a series of functions.
I don't know about inside a function, but VS2010 has sequence diagram generation from code - see here or here
I think you may be looking for Code Rocket.
It provides flowchart and pseudocode visualizations of code methods and algorithms, embedded directly inside Visual Studio and Eclipse - and there is a separate Designer application for working outwith IDEs too.
AiVosto has a set of tools to visualize source code from many languages: Visustin. It is on the market since a long time. I tried it a very long time ago, was not 100% convinved. Maybe you want to give it a try and evaluate if it's worth the money for you.
For me it was so that in order to understand some complex algorithm, I have anyway to experiment with it, having a graph helps a bit but as a coder you probably can visualize loops and decision trees well without software. I don't want to discourage you from using that, just try it out before investing money, having graphs is nice but shall also be useful.

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