I just want to check my understanding of C#'s ways of handling things, before I delve too deeply into designing my classes. My current understanding is that:
Struct is a value type, meaning it actually contains the data members defined within.
Class is a reference type, meaning it contains references to the data members defined within.
A method signature passes parameters by value, which means a copy of the value is passed to the inside of the method, making it expensive for large arrays and data structures.
A method signature that defines a parameter with the ref or out keywords will instead pass a parameter by reference, which means a pointer to the object is provided instead.
What I don't understand is what happens when I invoke a method, what actually happens. Does new() get invoked? Does it just automagically copy the data? Or does it actually just point to the original object? And how does using ref and out affect this?
What I don't understand is what happens when I invoke a method, what actually happens. Does new() get invoked? Does it just automagically copy the data? Or does it actually just point to the original object? And how does using ref and out affect this?
The short answer:
The empty constructor will not be called automatically, and it actually just points to the original object.
using ref and out does not affect this.
The long answer:
I think it would be easier to understand how C# handles passing arguments to a function.
Actually everything is being passed by value
Really?! Everything by value?
Yes! Everything!
Of course there must be some kind of a difference between passing classes and simple typed objects, such as an Integer, otherwise, it would be a huge step back performance wise.
Well the thing is, that behind the scenes when you pass a class instance of an object to a function, what is really being passed to the function is the pointer to the class. the pointer, of course, can be passed by value without causing performance issues.
Actually, everything is being passed by value; it's just that when
you're "passing an object", you're actually passing a reference to that
object (and you're passing that reference by value).
once we are in the function, given the argument pointer, we can relate to the object passed by reference.
You don't actually need to do anything for this, you can relate directly to the instance passed as the argument (as said before, this whole process is being done behind the scenes).
After understanding this, you probably understand that the empty constructor will not be called automatically, and it actually just points to the original object.
EDITED:
As to the out and ref, they allow functions to change the value of an arguments and have that change persist outside of the scope of the function.
In a nutshell, using the ref keyword for value types will act as follows:
int i = 42;
foo(ref i);
will translate in c++ to:
int i = 42;
int* ptrI = &i;
foo(ptrI)
while omitting the ref will simply translate to:
int i = 42;
foo(i)
using those keywords for reference type objects, will allow you to reallocate memory to the passed argument, and make the reallocation persist outside of the scope of the function (for more details please refer to the MSDN page)
Side note:
The difference between ref and out is that out makes sure that the called function must assign a value to the out argument, while ref does not have this restriction, and then you should handle it by assigning some default value yourself, thus, ref Implies the the initial value of the argument is important to the function and might affect it's behaviour.
Passing a value-type variable to a method means passing a copy of the variable to the method. Any changes to the parameter that take place inside the method have no affect on the original data stored in the variable.
If you want the called method to change the value of the parameter, you have to pass it by reference, using the ref or out keyword.
When you pass a reference-type parameter by value, it is possible to change the data pointed to by the reference, such as the value of a class member. However, you cannot change the value of the reference itself; that is, you cannot use the same reference to allocate memory for a new class and have it persist outside the block. To do that, pass the parameter using the ref (or out) keyword.
Reference: Passing Parameters(C#)
Tragically, there is no way to pass an object by value in C# or VB.NET. I suggest instead you pass, for example, New Class1(Object1) where Object1 is an instance of Class1. You will have to write your own New method to do this but at least you then have an easy pass-by-value capability for Class1.
I've been told that when you pass an Object to a method,
it's passed "by value". I made a little test to examine it:
Point p = new Point(1, 1);
Circle c = new Circle(p);
p.x = 999;
Console.WriteLine(c.p.x);
the code above prints "999", but I thought the object is copied to the method
I've been told that if you're not using "ref" (or "out") the method get the value
of the object.
can someone make it clear to me?
thanks,
socksocket
Assuming Point is declared as class, not p itself is copied, the reference to p is copied. So it's still pass by value. You pass the value of a reference.
When saying Point p = new Point(1, 1); (and if point is a reference type), one might think it is a variable containing a Point, but in fact it is a variable containing a reference to a Point that is stored somewhere else.
C# is pass-by-value - the reference value is passed in the normal case, that is. ( which means that it is a new reference to the same object)
Point is structure, so passed by value.
In .NET, there are two categories of types, reference types and value types.
Structs are value types and classes are reference types.
The general different is that a reference type lives on the heap, and a value type lives inline, that is, wherever it is your variable or field is defined.
A variable containing a value type contains the entire value type value. For a struct, that means that the variable contains the entire struct, with all its fields.
A variable containing a reference type contains a pointer, or a reference to somewhere else in memory where the actual value resides.
This has one benefit, to begin with:
value types always contains a value
reference types can contain a null-reference, meaning that they don't refer to anything at all at the moment
Internally, reference types are implemented as pointers, and knowing that, and knowing how variable assignment works, there are other behavioral patterns:
copying the contents of a value type variable into another variable, copies the entire contents into the new variable, making the two distinct. In other words, after the copy, changes to one won't affect the other
copying the contents of a reference type variable into another variable, copies the reference, which means you now have two references to the same somewhere else storage of the actual data. In other words, after the copy, changing the data in one reference will appear to affect the other as well, but only because you're really just looking at the same data both places
When you declare variables or fields, here's how the two types differ:
variable: value type lives on the stack, reference type lives on the stack as a pointer to somewhere in heap memory where the actual memory lives
class/struct-field: value type lives inside the class, reference type lives inside the class as a pointer to somewhere in heap memory where the actual memory lives.
See MSDN and this tutorial is similar to your Circle / Point / Axises Example.
Some guy asked me this question couple of months ago and I couldn't explain it in detail. What is the difference between a reference type and a value type in C#?
I know that value types are int, bool, float, etc and reference types are delegate, interface, etc. Or is this wrong, too?
Can you explain it to me in a professional way?
Your examples are a little odd because while int, bool and float are specific types, interfaces and delegates are kinds of type - just like struct and enum are kinds of value types.
I've written an explanation of reference types and value types in this article. I'd be happy to expand on any bits which you find confusing.
The "TL;DR" version is to think of what the value of a variable/expression of a particular type is. For a value type, the value is the information itself. For a reference type, the value is a reference which may be null or may be a way of navigating to an object containing the information.
For example, think of a variable as like a piece of paper. It could have the value "5" or "false" written on it, but it couldn't have my house... it would have to have directions to my house. Those directions are the equivalent of a reference. In particular, two people could have different pieces of paper containing the same directions to my house - and if one person followed those directions and painted my house red, then the second person would see that change too. If they both just had separate pictures of my house on the paper, then one person colouring their paper wouldn't change the other person's paper at all.
Value type:
Holds some value not memory addresses
Example:
Struct
Storage:
TL;DR: A variable's value is stored wherever it is decleared. Local variables live on the stack for example, but when declared inside a class as a member it lives on the heap tightly coupled with the class it is declared in.
Longer: Thus value types are stored wherever they are declared.
E.g.: an int's value inside a function as a local variable would be stored on the stack, whilst an in int's value declared as member in a class would be stored on the heap with the class it is declared in. A value type on a class has a lifetype that is exactly the same as the class it is declared in, requiring almost no work by the garbage collector. It's more complicated though, i'd refer to #JonSkeet's book "C# In Depth" or his article "Memory in .NET" for a more concise explenation.
Advantages:
A value type does not need extra garbage collection. It gets garbage collected together with the instance it lives in. Local variables in methods get cleaned up upon method leave.
Drawbacks:
When large set of values are passed to a method the receiving variable actually copies so there are two redundant values in memory.
As classes are missed out.it losses all the oop benifits
Reference type:
Holds a memory address of a value not value
Example:
Class
Storage:
Stored on heap
Advantages:
When you pass a reference variable to a method and it changes it indeed changes the original value whereas in value types a copy of the given variable is taken and that's value is changed.
When the size of variable is bigger reference type is good
As classes come as a reference type variables, they give reusability, thus benefitting Object-oriented programming
Drawbacks:
More work referencing when allocating and dereferences when reading the value.extra overload for garbage collector
I found it easier to understand the difference of the two if you know how computer allocate stuffs in memory and know what a pointer is.
Reference is usually associated with a pointer. Meaning the memory address where your variable reside is actually holding another memory address of the actual object in a different memory location.
The example I am about to give is grossly over simplified, so take it with a grain of salt.
Imagine computer memory is a bunch of PO boxes in a row (starting w/ PO Box 0001 to PO Box n) that can hold something inside it. If PO boxes doesn't do it for you, try a hashtable or dictionary or an array or something similar.
Thus, when you do something like:
var a = "Hello";
the computer will do the following:
allocate memory (say starting at memory location 1000 for 5 bytes) and put H (at 1000), e (at 1001), l (at 1002), l (at 1003) and o (at 1004).
allocate somewhere in memory (say at location 0500) and assigned it as the variable a.
So it's kind of like an alias (0500 is a).
assign the value at that memory location (0500) to 1000 (which is where the string Hello start in memory). Thus the variable a is holding a reference to the actual starting memory location of the "Hello" string.
Value type will hold the actual thing in its memory location.
Thus, when you do something like:
var a = 1;
the computer will do the following:
allocate a memory location say at 0500 and assign it to variable a (the same alias thing)
put the value 1 in it (at memory location 0500).
Notice that we are not allocating extra memory to hold the actual value (1).
Thus a is actually holding the actual value and that's why it's called value type.
This is from a post of mine from a different forum, about two years ago. While the language is vb.net (as opposed to C#), the Value Type vs. Reference type concepts are uniform throughout .net, and the examples still hold.
It is also important to remember that within .net, ALL types technically derive from the base type Object. The value types are designed to behave as such, but in the end they also inherit the functionality of base type Object.
A. Value Types are just that- they represent a distinct area in memory where a discrete VALUE is stored. Value types are of fixed memory size and are stored in the stack, which is a collection of addresses of fixed size.
When you make a statement like such:
Dim A as Integer
DIm B as Integer
A = 3
B = A
You have done the following:
Created 2 spaces in memory sufficient to hold 32 bit integer values.
Placed a value of 3 in the memory allocation assigned to A
Placed a value of 3 in the memory allocation assigned to B by assigning it the same value as the held in A.
The Value of each variable exists discretely in each memory location.
B. Reference Types can be of various sizes. Therefore, they can't be stored in the "Stack" (remember, the stack is a collection of memory allocations of fixed size?). They are stored in the "Managed Heap". Pointers (or "references") to each item on the managed heap are maintained in the stack (Like an Address). Your code uses these pointers in the stack to access objects stored in the managed heap. So when your code uses a reference variable, it is actually using a pointer (or "address" to an memory location in the managed heap).
Say you have created a Class named clsPerson, with a string Property Person.Name
In this case, when you make a statement such as this:
Dim p1 As clsPerson
p1 = New clsPerson
p1.Name = "Jim Morrison"
Dim p2 As Person
p2 = p1
In the case above, the p1.Name Property will Return "Jim Morrison", as you would expect. The p2.Name property will ALSO return "Jim Morrison", as you would Iintuitively expect. I believe that both p1 and p2 represent distinct addresses on the Stack. However, now that you have assigned p2 the value of p1, both p1 and p2 point to the SAME LOCATION on the managed heap.
Now COnsider THIS situation:
Dim p1 As clsPerson
Dim p2 As clsPerson
p1 = New clsPerson
p1.Name = "Jim Morrison"
p2 = p1
p2.Name = "Janis Joplin"
In this situation, You have created one new instance of the person Class on the Managed Heap with a pointer p1 on the Stack which references the object, and assigned the Name Property of the object instance a value of "Jim Morrison" again. Next, you created another pointer p2 in the Stack, and pointed it at the same address on the managed heap as that referenced by p1 (when you made the assignement p2 = p1).
Here comes the twist. When you the Assign the Name property of p2 the value "Janis Joplin" you are changing the Name property for the object REFERENCED by Both p1 and p2, such that, if you ran the following code:
MsgBox(P1.Name)
'Will return "Janis Joplin"
MsgBox(p2.Name)
'will ALSO return "Janis Joplin"Because both variables (Pointers on the Stack) reference the SAME OBJECT in memory (an Address on the Managed Heap).
Did that make sense?
Last. If you do THIS:
DIm p1 As New clsPerson
Dim p2 As New clsPerson
p1.Name = "Jim Morrison"
p2.Name = "Janis Joplin"
You now have two distinct Person Objects. However, the minute you do THIS again:
p2 = p1
You have now pointed both back to "Jim Morrison". (I am not exactly sure what happened to the Object on the Heap referenced by p2 . . . I THINK it has now gone out of scope. This is one of those areas where hopefullly someone can set me straight . . .). -EDIT: I BELIEVE this is why you would Set p2 = Nothing OR p2 = New clsPerson before making the new assignment.
Once again, if you now do THIS:
p2.Name = "Jimi Hendrix"
MsgBox(p1.Name)
MsgBox(p2.Name)
Both msgBoxes will now return "Jimi Hendrix"
This can be pretty confusing for a bit, and I will say one last time, I may have some of the details wrong.
Good Luck, and hopefully others who know better than me will come along to help clarify some of this . . .
value data type and reference data type
1) value( contain the data directly )
but
reference ( refers to the data )
2) in value( every variable has its own copy)
but
in reference (more than variable can refer to some objects)
3) in value (operation variable can`t effect on other variable )
but
in reference (variable can affect other )
4) value types are(int, bool, float)
but
reference type are (array , class objects , string )
Value Type:
Fixed memory size.
Stored in Stack memory.
Holds actual value.
Ex. int, char, bool, etc...
Reference Type:
Not fixed memory.
Stored in Heap memory.
Holds memory address of actual value.
Ex. string, array, class, etc...
"Variables that are based on value types directly contain values. Assigning one value type variable to another copies the contained value. This differs from the assignment of reference type variables, which copies a reference to the object but not the object itself." from Microsoft's library.
You can find a more complete answer here and here.
Sometimes explanations won't help especially for the beginners. You can imagine value type as data file and reference type as a shortcut to a file.
So if you copy a reference variable you only copy the link/pointer to a real data somewhere in memory. If you copy a value type, you really clone the data in memory.
This is probably wrong in esoterical ways, but, to make it simple:
Value types are values that are passed normally "by value" (so copying them). Reference types are passed "by reference" (so giving a pointer to the original value). There isn't any guarantee by the .NET ECMA standard of where these "things" are saved. You could build an implementation of .NET that is stackless, or one that is heapless (the second would be very complex, but you probably could, using fibers and many stacks)
Structs are value type (int, bool... are structs, or at least are simulated as...), classes are reference type.
Value types descend from System.ValueType. Reference type descend from System.Object.
Now.. In the end you have Value Type, "referenced objects" and references (in C++ they would be called pointers to objects. In .NET they are opaque. We don't know what they are. From our point of view they are "handles" to the object). These lasts are similar to Value Types (they are passed by copy). So an object is composed by the object (a reference type) and zero or more references to it (that are similar to value types). When there are zero references the GC will probably collect it.
In general (in the "default" implementation of .NET), Value type can go on the stack (if they are local fields) or on the heap (if they are fields of a class, if they are variables in an iterator function, if they are variables referenced by a closure, if they are variable in an async function (using the newer Async CTP)...). Referenced value can only go to the heap. References use the same rules as Value types.
In the cases of Value Type that go on the heap because they are in an iterator function, an async function, or are referenced by a closure, if you watch the compiled file you'll see that the compiler created a class to put these variables, and the class is built when you call the function.
Now, I don't know how to write long things, and I have better things to do in my life. If you want a "precise" "academic" "correct" version, read THIS:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ericlippert/archive/2010/09/30/the-truth-about-value-types.aspx
It's 15 minutes I'm looking for it! It's better than the msdn versions, because it's a condensed "ready to use" article.
The simplest way to think of reference types is to consider them as being "object-IDs"; the only things one can do with an object ID are create one, copy one, inquire or manipulate the type of one, or compare two for equality. An attempt to do anything else with an object-ID will be regarded as shorthand for doing the indicated action with the object referred to by that id.
Suppose I have two variables X and Y of type Car--a reference type. Y happens to hold "object ID #19531". If I say "X=Y", that will cause X to hold "object ID #19531". Note that neither X nor Y holds a car. The car, otherwise known as "object ID #19531", is stored elsewhere. When I copied Y into X, all I did was copy the ID number. Now suppose I say X.Color=Colors.Blue. Such a statement will be regarded as an instruction to go find "object ID#19531" and paint it blue. Note that even though X and Y now refer to a blue car rather than a yellow one, the statement doesn't actually affect X or Y, because both still refer to "object ID #19531", which is still the same car as it always has been.
Variable types and Reference Value are easy to apply and well applied to the domain model, facilitate the development process.
To remove any myth around the amount of "value type", I will comment on how this is handled on the platform. NET, specifically in C # (CSharp) when called APIS and send parameters by value, by reference, in our methods, and functions and how to make the correct treatment of the passages of these values.
Read this article Variable Type Value and Reference in C #
Suppose v is a value-type expression/variable, and r is a reference-type expression/variable
x = v
update(v) //x will not change value. x stores the old value of v
x = r
update(r) //x now refers to the updated r. x only stored a link to r,
//and r can change but the link to it doesn't .
So, a value-type variable stores the actual value (5, or "h"). A reference-type varaible only stores a link to a metaphorical box where the value is.
Before explaining the different data types available in C#, it's important to mention that C# is a strongly-typed language. This means that each variable, constant, input parameter, return type and in general every expression that evaluates to a value, has a type.
Each type contains information that will be embedded by the compiler into the executable file as metadata which will be used by the common language runtime (CLR) to guarantee type safety when it allocates and reclaims memory.
If you wanna know how much memory a specific type allocates, you can use the sizeof operator as follows:
static void Main()
{
var size = sizeof(int);
Console.WriteLine($"int size:{size}");
size = sizeof(bool);
Console.WriteLine($"bool size:{size}");
size = sizeof(double);
Console.WriteLine($"double size:{size}");
size = sizeof(char);
Console.WriteLine($"char size:{size}");
}
The output will show the number of bytes allocated by each variable.
int size:4
bool size:1
double size:8
char size:2
The information related to each type are:
The required storage space.
The maximum and minimum values. For example, the type Int32 accepts values between 2147483648 and 2147483647.
The base type it inherits from.
The location where the memory for variables will be allocated at run time.
The kinds of operations that are permitted.
The members (methods, fields, events, etc.) contained by the type. For example, if we check the definition of type int, we will find the following struct and members:
namespace System
{
[ComVisible(true)]
public struct Int32 : IComparable, IFormattable, IConvertible, IComparable<Int32>, IEquatable<Int32>
{
public const Int32 MaxValue = 2147483647;
public const Int32 MinValue = -2147483648;
public static Int32 Parse(string s, NumberStyles style, IFormatProvider provider);
...
}
}
Memory management
When multiple processes are running on an operating system and the amount of RAM isn't enough to hold it all, the operating system maps parts of the hard disk with the RAM and starts storing data in the hard disk. The operating system will use than specific tables where virtual addresses are mapped to their correspondent physical addresses to perform the request. This capability to manage the memory is called virtual memory.
In each process, the virtual memory available is organized in the following 6 sections but for the relevance of this topic, we will focus only on the stack and the heap.
Stack
The stack is a LIFO (last in, first out) data structure, with a size-dependent on the operating system (by default, for ARM, x86 and x64 machines Windows's reserve 1MB, while Linux reserve from 2MB to 8MB depending on the version).
This section of memory is automatically managed by the CPU. Every time a function declares a new variable, the compiler allocates a new memory block as big as its size on the stack, and when the function is over, the memory block for the variable is deallocated.
Heap
This region of memory isn't managed automatically by the CPU and its size is bigger than the stack. When the new keyword is invoked, the compiler starts looking for the first free memory block that fits the size of the request. and when it finds it, it is marked as reserved by using the built-in C function malloc() and a return the pointer to that location. It's also possible to deallocate a block of memory by using the built-in C function free(). This mechanism causes memory fragmentation and has to use pointers to access the right block of memory, it's slower than the stack to perform the read/write operations.
Custom and Built-in types
While C# provides a standard set of built-in types representing integers, boolean, text characters, and so on, You can use constructs like struct, class, interface, and enum to create your own types.
An example of custom type using the struct construct is:
struct Point
{
public int X;
public int Y;
};
Value and reference types
We can categorize the C# type into the following categories:
Value types
Reference types
Value types
Value types derive from the System.ValueType class and variables of this type contain their values within their memory allocation in the stack. The two categories of value types are struct and enum.
The following example shows the member of the type boolean. As you can see there is no explicit reference to System.ValueType class, this happens because this class is inherited by the struct.
namespace System
{
[ComVisible(true)]
public struct Boolean : IComparable, IConvertible, IComparable<Boolean>, IEquatable<Boolean>
{
public static readonly string TrueString;
public static readonly string FalseString;
public static Boolean Parse(string value);
...
}
}
Reference types
On the other hand, the reference types do not contain the actual data stored in a variable, but the memory address of the heap where the value is stored. The categories of reference types are classes, delegates, arrays, and interfaces.
At run time, when a reference type variable is declared, it contains the value null until an object that has been created using the keywords new is assigned to it.
The following example shows the members of the generic type List.
namespace System.Collections.Generic
{
[DebuggerDisplay("Count = {Count}")]
[DebuggerTypeProxy(typeof(Generic.Mscorlib_CollectionDebugView<>))]
[DefaultMember("Item")]
public class List<T> : IList<T>, ICollection<T>, IEnumerable<T>, IEnumerable, IList, ICollection, IReadOnlyList<T>, IReadOnlyCollection<T>
{
...
public T this[int index] { get; set; }
public int Count { get; }
public int Capacity { get; set; }
public void Add(T item);
public void AddRange(IEnumerable<T> collection);
...
}
}
In case you wanna find out the memory address of a specific object, the class System.Runtime.InteropServices provides a way to access to managed objects from unmanaged memory. In the following example, we are gonna use the static method GCHandle.Alloc() to allocate a handle to a string and then the method AddrOfPinnedObject to retrieve its address.
string s1 = "Hello World";
GCHandle gch = GCHandle.Alloc(s1, GCHandleType.Pinned);
IntPtr pObj = gch.AddrOfPinnedObject();
Console.WriteLine($"Memory address:{pObj.ToString()}");
The output will be
Memory address:39723832
References
Official documentation: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/build/reference/stack-stack-allocations?view=vs-2019
I think these two pictures describe it the best. This is the case in languages like C#, Java, JavaScript, and Python. For C++ references mean different, and the equivalent of reference types are pointer types (That's why you see in various documents of different languages that they are used interchangeably). One of the important things is the meaning of "Pass by Value" and "Pass by Reference". I think there are other questions about them on StackOverflow you can seek for.
There are many little details of the differences between value types and reference types that are stated explicitly by the standard and some of them are not easy to understand, especially for beginners.
See ECMA standard 33, Common Language Infrastructure (CLI). The CLI is also standardized by the ISO. I would provide a reference but for ECMA we must download a PDF and that link depends on the version number. ISO standards cost money.
One difference is that value types can be boxed but reference types generally cannot be. There are exceptions but they are quite technical.
Value types cannot have parameter-less instance constructors or finalizers and they cannot refer to themselves. Referring to themselves means for example that if there is a value type Node then a member of Node cannot be a Node. I think there are other requirements/limitations in the specifications but if so then they are not gathered together in one place.
Common question but I could use an "english" explanation.
Is it like Java where
Cat myCat
actually is a pointer to Cat?
Should I really create copy constructors in C#?
I understand we are passing by value, but now my question is are we passing by pointer value or full copy of the object?
If it's the latter, isn't that too expensive performance/memory wise? Is that when you have to use the ref keyword?
As #rstevens answered, if it is a class, myCat is a reference. But if you pass myCat to a method call, then the reference itself is passed by value - i.e. the parameter itself will reference the same object, but it's a completely new reference, so if you assign it to null, or create a new object, the old myCat reference will still point to the original object.
SomeMethod(myCat);
void SomeMethod(Cat cat)
{
cat.Miau(); //will make the original myCat object to miau
cat = null; //only cat is set to null, myCat still points to the original object
}
Jon Skeet has a good article about it.
Remember that a pointer is not exactly the same as a reference, but you can just about think of it that way if you want.
I swear I saw another SO question on this not 10 minutes ago, but I can't find the link now. In the other question I saw, they were talking about passing arguments by ref vs by value, and it came down to this:
By default in .Net, you don't pass objects by reference. You pass references to objects by value.
The difference is subtle but important, especially if, for example, you want to assign to your passed object in the method.
If you delacred Cat as
class Cat {...}
then it is.
If you delcared Cat as
struct Cat {...}
then your variable "is" the structure itself.
This is the difference between reference types and value types in .Net.
Yes, it's about pointers but not really... The thing that messed me up originally is that it isn't really about about protecting your variable from changes within the method. If you change the object within the method, those changes are visible to the external methods regardless of whether it is passed in "ref" or not.
The difference (as I understand it) is whether the variable you send in has its reference updated coming back out if you change the object that variable references. So given this method
public void DoSomething(ref CoolShades glasses)
{
glasses.Vendor = "Ray Ban";
glasses = new CoolShades();
}
the variable you passed in as a parameter now contains a reference to the new CoolShades rather than whatever object it referenced before. The original parameter object's Vendor property will be changed to "Ray Ban" regardless of whether you passed the parameter ref or not.