How to know who kills my threads - c#

I got a thread that is just banishing.. i'd like to know who is killing my thread and why.
It occurs to me my thread is being killed by the OS, but i'd like to confirm this and if possible to know why it's killing it.
As for the thread, i can assert it has at least 40 min of execution before dying, but it suddenly dies around 5 min.
public void RunWorker()
{
Thread worker = new Thread(delegate()
{
try
{
DoSomethingForALongLongTime();
}
catch(Exception e)
{
//Nothing is never logged :(
LogException(e);
throw e;
}
});
worker.IsBackground = true;
worker.SetApartmentState(System.Threading.ApartmentState.STA);
worker.Start();
}
EDIT: Addressing answers
Try/Catch Possible exceptions:
It's implemented and it catches nothing :(
Main Thread dying:
This thread is created by the web server, which continues to run
Work completion:
The work is not completed, as it finally affects the database, i can check whether it's done or not when the thread dies.
Having thought of these things brought me to this question, who is killing my threads??
ps. It's not Lady Goldent in the living room with the candle stick :)

Various people (including myself, here) pointed out that hosting a long-running thread in IIS is a bad idea. Your thread will being running inside an IIS 'worker process'. These processes are periodically terminated (recycled) by IIS, which will cause your thread to die.
I suggest that you try turning-off IIS worker process recycling to see if that makes a difference. You can find more information here.

Your thread probably just threw an exception. Try putting a try/catch block around DoSomethingForALongLongTime and see what it picks up.
Update: I didn't notice before that you were starting this from a web server. That can be a very bad idea. In particular, is the separate thread using any information derived from HttpContext.Current? That would include Request, Response, Session, etc., as well as any information from the page.
This is bad because these things only last as long as the request lasts. Once the request is over, they become invalid, to say the very least.
If you need to kick off a long-running thread from within a web application or web service, then you should create a simple Windows Service and host a WCF service within it. Have the web page then send all the information needed to perform the task to the service. The service can even use MSMQ as a transport, which will ensure that no messages are lost, even if the service gets busy.

A potential way to get more information: attach a debugger and break on thread termination. Depending on how your thread is being terminated, this might not work.
Download Debugging Tools for Windows if you don't already have it
Run windbg.exe, attach to your process
Break into windbg, type sxe et to enable breaking on thread exit
When the debugger breaks, inspect the state of the system, other threads, etc.
To get the managed stack, load sos.dll (.loadby sos mscorsvr, .loadby sos mscorwks, or .loadby sos clr should work), then run !clrstack (see !help for other sos commands)
If you get a lot of noise from other threads exiting, script windbg to continue after breaking if it's not the thread ID you care about.
Edit: If you think the thread is being terminated from within your process, you can also set a breakpoint on TerminateThread (bp kernel32!TerminateThread) and ExitThread (bp kernel32!ExitThread) to catch the stack of the killer.

I don't know the answer, but some thoughts:
Could it be throwing an exception? Have you tried putting a try/catch around the DoSomethingForALongLongTime() call?
Are there any points where it exits normally? Try putting some logging on them.
Do you get the same behaviour in and out of the debugger? Does the output window in the debugger provide any hints?
UPDATE
You said:
This thread is created by the web
server, which continues to run
If the thread is running inside asp.net then it may be that the thread is being killed when the asp.net worker process recycles, which it will do periodically. You could try turning off worker process recycling and see if that makes any difference.

Your edit reveals the answer:
It's the butler web server.
How exactly do you host these threads? A webserver environment isn't exactly designed to host long living processes. In fact, it is probably configured to halt runaway sites, every 40 minutes maybe?
Edit:
For a quick fix, your best chance is to set worker.IsBackground = false; because your current setting of true allows the system to kill the parent-thread w/o waiting for your bgw.
On another note, there is little point in using a BackgroundWorker in an ASP.NET application, it is intended for WinForms and WPF. It would be better to create a separate thread for this, since you are changing some of the Threads properties. That is not advised for a ThreadPool (Bgw) thread.

The process might be terminating. That would be what worker.IsBackground = true; is designed to do, kill your thread when the main thread exits.

A background thread will only run as long there are foreground threads runnnig.
As soon that all foreground threads end, any background thread still running will aborted.

If checking for an exception doesn't show anything useful, get your thread code to write to a log file at key points. You'll then be able to see exactly when it stops working and hopefully why.

A simple answer would be: "The killer doesn't leave a name card" ;)
If your thread is hosted in IIS, probably the thread is killed by the app pool process which recycles. The server might continue running but the process which hosts your item is stopped untill a new request fires everything up again.
If your thread is hosted in an executable, the only way it can be killed is by killing the thread yourself, throwing an exception in the thread or terminating the host process
Hope this helps.

You can try to increase executionTimeout value of configuration\system.web\httpRuntime in web.config (default value is 110 seconds in .NET 4.0 and 90 in corresponds to http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/e1f13641.aspx). You can try to change it dynamically Server.ScriptTimeout = 300 (see http://www.beansoftware.com/ASP.NET-Tutorials/Long-Operations.aspx). It this parameter will not helps, then I think you have a problem other as thread recycling from IIS. How you can see default value of this parameter is much less as typical live time of your thread. I think, that your problem has another nature, but to be sure...
Why you set apartment state for the thread? Which COM objects you use in the working thread? Do you have an unmanaged code which do the most of work where you can also insert some code? I think you should have more information about SomethingForALongLongTime to be able to solve the problem.
And one more a little suggestion. Could you insert a line of code after calling SomethingForALongLongTime(); to be sure, that SomethingForALongLongTime not end without an exception?
UPDATED: To be absolutely sure that your thread will be not killed by IIS, you can try to create a process which do SomethingForALongLongTime(); instead of using threads.

When you call RunWorker(), you can add a reference to your thread to a list. Once you have detected that your thread has died, you can inspect the state of the thread, perhaps it will reveal how it died. Or, perhaps it hasn't died, its just waiting on some resource (like the connection to the database).
List runningThreads = ...
public void RunWorker() {
Thread worker = new Thread(delegate()
..
runningThreads.add(worker);
worker.Start();
}
public void checkThreads() {
for (Thread t : runningThreads) {
Console.WriteLine("ThreadState: {0}", t.ThreadState);
}
}

It could be throwing one of the various uncatcheable exceptions including Stack Overflow or Out of Memory. These are the hardest exceptions to track down.
What does memory consumption look like while this thread is running? Can you use a memory profiler on it to see if it's out of control? Can you add some logging in inner loops? If you have a recursive method, add a counter and throw an exception if it recurses an impossible number of times. Are you using large objects that could be causing large object heap fragmentation (causes out of memory errors even when you aren't really out).

You should instrument DoSomethingForALongLongTime() with lots of debug logs, so you can find out at what spot does the code stop executing. Or attach a debugger and break on all first chance exceptions.

use AsyncTasks to achieve your long running work in asp.net

Try use app domain UnhandledException event: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.appdomain.unhandledexception.aspx
it may give you some information if you miss some exceptions

Related

Process continues running after main thread has terminated?

I'll start by saying I do not have a lot of experience in troubleshooting multi-threading problems. So a lot of what I've read about debugging race conditions, dead locks, live locks, etc. are strictly theoretical to me.
I have this .NET application that is making use of a dynamically loaded native win32 dll. If the dll is never loaded the application terminates without a problem. However, if the dll is loaded then when the user exits the application the UI disappears but the process never terminates.
I've turned on native code debugging in the project settings so I can see all the threads that are running. When the user closes the application window the main thread appears to terminate. I know this because if I perform a Break All in the Threads windows in Visual Studio the main thread is re-categorized as a worker thread and there is no call stack available for it. There are 20 other threads still active, all with call stacks. I've looked through the call stacks for all of these threads and nothing sticks out at me (there's no mention of the dll in any of the call stacks).
What steps can I take to narrow down the cause of this problem? Are there any additional tools I should be using to help pin point the problem?
This means that some of your Foreground Threads are still alive. Unlike Background Threads, Foreground Threads keeps the process alive.
You should either use Background Threads or Stop your Foregrounds Threads to be able to exit the process gracefully.
Windows application will automatically exit when all of its thread(s) are stopped.
As you said
If the dll is never loaded the application terminates without a
problem
I'm assuming all the running threads are unmanaged threads(not created by clr). There is no concept of background threads in native code. All threads must be terminated to terminate the process.
You must find a way to signal all threads to exit in that library. See if you have any api exposed for that.
If you don't find anything, you've got a "Sledge Hammer" approach. i.e Terminate the process with Environment.Exit which works almost always. Be sure you use this approach as a last resort as this can corrupt the process state.

How do I abort a .NET task?

Here's the situation, I am writing the framework for a code war contest. As the code runs, for each turn, it calls a method in the library provided by each contestant. The rules of the contest is the method must return in 1 second or we kill the task calling them. We then use a default result for that turn.
The method has no support for a cancel because we cannot trust the called code to respond to a cancel. And we need to kill the thread because if we have 10 or 20 ignored background tasks then all calls going forward will provide fewer clock cycles on each call and methods that before took less than 1 second now take more.
On the plus side, the method we're killing should have no resources open, etc. so an abort should not leave anything hanging.
Update: Two things to keep in mind here. First, this is like a game - so performance is important. Second, the worker thread is unlikely to have any resources open. If one of the called methods goes overlong, I need to abort it and move on quickly.
You should run each contestant in his own AppDomain with low privileges. This has several advantages:
It's sandboxed
It can't interact with any other code in the process
Force unloading an AppDomain is relatively clean.
Even if you prefer killing the thread over unloading the AppDomain I'd still put each contestant into an AppDomain to get the isolation.
Unfortunately Thread.Abort is not enough. It still executes finally clauses which can take as long as they want.
I would recommend that you run the code in a second process and carefully define the interface for communicating with it to ensure that it can handle not receiving a response. Most operating systems are designed to clean up fairly well after a killing a process.
For communication, you should probably avoid .NET remoting, as that seems likely to be left in an inconsistent state on the server side. Some other choices: sockets, named pipes, web service.
Thread.Interrupt() method is maybe what you are looking for.
As the MSDN documentation says, "If this thread is not currently blocked in a wait, sleep, or join state, it will be interrupted when it next begins to block."
It is not an abort, it forces the running thread to throws ThreadInterruptedException when the thread enters in a wait state.
You can then use a timer in another thread with a timeout to check if the thread don't really want to terminate, if the thread refuses to terminate in, for example, 30 seconds, you can abort it.

Application doesn't exit with 0 threads

We have a WinForms desktop application, which is heavily multithreaded. 3 threads run with Application.Run and a bunch of other background worker threads. Getting all the threads to shut down properly was kind of tricky, but I thought I finally got it right.
But when we actually deployed the application, users started experiencing the application not exiting. There's a System.Threading.Mutex to prevent them from running the app multiple times, so they have to go into task manager and kill the old one before they can run it again.
Every thread gets a Thread.Join before the main thread exits, and I added logging to each thread I spawn. According to the log, every single thread that starts also exits, and the main thread also exits. Even stranger, running SysInternals ProcessExplorer show all the threads disappear when the application exits. As in, there are 0 threads (managed or unmanaged), but the process is still running.
I can't reproduce this on any developers computers or our test environment, and so far I've only seen it happen on Windows XP (not Vista or Windows 7 or any Windows Server). How can a process keep running with 0 threads?
Edit:
Here's a bit more detail. One of event loops is hosting an Win32 interop DLL which uses a COM object to talk to a device driver. I put it in its own thread because the device driver is time sensitive, and whenever the UI thread would block for a significant amount of time (such as waiting for a database call to finish), it would interfere with the device driver.
So I changed the code so the main thread would do a Thread.Join with the device driver thread. That actually caused the application to lock up... it logs a few more calls on the UI thread after the Join completed and then everything stops. If the device is powered off, the driver never starts, and the problem goes away. So it looks like the driver must be responsible for keeping the application alive, even after it's supposedly been shut down.
When you create your threads, set IsBackground=true on them. When your main ui thread/app is closed, all created threads will automatically be shut down.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.threading.thread.isbackground.aspx
Is it possible that the children of your Application.Run calls aren't terminating? Also, what's actually causing the application to exit - does it automatically close when all the threads have terminated (automatically meaning you wrote some code to do that), or is it user-imitated?
I had an issue once where there was a race condition in my "thread complete" event code that would sometimes result in what you're seeing. The last two threads would finish at the same time, fire the event simultaneously, and each event would decide it wasn't the last thread, so the application would continue running, even though the thread count was zero. To resolve this, I was able to find and eliminate the race condition, but you could also use a timer that checks every second or two, gets a count of the threads, and if none are still open, it kills the application.
We never did figure out the root programmatic cause, but it was a specific driver version that caused the issue, and upgrading to a new driver fixed the problem.
Unfortunately, this is all the answer I can give, if someone else someday runs into a similar problem...

How can I stop a thread in C#?

I've created a Client-Server application, and on the Server I want to have the oportunity to stop the server and then start it again. The problem is that I can't stop the Thread that listen for Tcp Connections.
How can I close a Thread in C#?
Thanks.
private void KeepServer(){
while (this.connected)
{
tcpClient = tls.AcceptTcpClient();
Connection newConnection = new Connection(tcpClient);
}
}
In general, you should "stop" threads by indicating that you want them to stop, and letting them do it. It's recommended that you don't use Thread.Abort except for emergency situations where you're shutting down the whole application. (Calling Thread.Abort on the currently executing thread is safer, but still generally icky. That's what ASP.NET does when you redirect, by the way.)
I have a page about stopping threads gracefully. You don't have to use that exact code, of course - but the pattern of setting a flag and testing it periodically is the main point.
Now, how that gets applied in your particular situation will depend on how you're listening for TCP connections. If you could post the code used by that thread, we may be able to adapt it appropriately.
Yor Question is a little general, but, I think that this may help you:
Threads in C#
I paste a portion:
Stopping a Thread
Normally, when a thread is started, it
runs until finished. However, it is
possible to stop a thread by calling
the Abort() method. In our example, if
we want to stop firstThread, you would
add the following code.
Read more at Suite101: How to Create,
Stop and Suspend Threads in C# |
Suite101.com
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/c_sharp/96436#ixzz0ZsZRRjKx
Happy coding!
You should use a boolean or a condition to stop the Thread. You can than use a Property to change the "Flag" of this boolean and the loop of the Thread will end. This is a proper way to do it. Of course, you can use Abort() on the Thread but this is not recommended and will raise an Exception that you will need to handle.
possible from the outside Thread.Abort and there is a way to pause. but its an incorrect way to do it...
you should just end the code to kill, reach the last } . and for pausing you should use a Mutex. the manner of opporation should be, you order the object to pause, and after it finishes with the current request it gets halt by the mutex before the next one. or just steps out side of the while for "kill".
btw the MSDN has a nice article describing common threading scenarios

How to detect when main thread terminates?

What I need to know:
I would like to detect when a the main thread (process?) terminates so that I can ensure certain actions are performed before it is terminated.
What I have found myself:
I found the events AppDomain.DomainUnload and AppDomain.ProcessExit. AppDomain.DomainUnload seems to work with non-applications like MbUnit. AppDomain.ProcessExit seems to work with applications but there is a 3 second time limit which I really don't like. Is there more ways to detect when an AppDomain / process terminates?
Background:
I am looking for such an event to ensure my log is persistet to file when the application terminates. The actual logging runs on another thread using a producer-consumer pattern where it is very likely that log entries might queue up in memory and I need to ensure this queue is saved to file when the application terminates.
Is there anything else I should be aware of?
Update:
Changed the above to reflect what I have found out myself. I am not happy with the 3 second time limit during ProcessExit. The MSDN documentation does say though that it can be extended:
The total execution time of all
ProcessExit event handlers is limited,
just as the total execution time of
all finalizers is limited at process
shutdown. The default is three
seconds, which can be overridden by an
unmanaged host.
Does anyone know how to override the default?
More ideas are also highly appreciated!
Follow up:
I have posted a follow up question to this.
You should have an entry point for your application. Normally you can do there some logging when all tasks are terminated:
static void Main()
{
try
{
Application.Run( .... );
}
finally
{
// logging ...
}
}
What exactly do you want to find out?
When the process terminates? (Just because the AppDomain is unloaded doesn't necessarily mean that the entire process is terminating)
When the main thread terminates (If there are other non-background threads, the main thread can terminate without the process terminating (or AppDomain unloading)
So they're not quite the same thing.
Anyway, it is generally dangerous to have log messages buffered in memory at all. What happens if someone turns off the power? Or if I terminate your process through Task Manager? All your log messages are gone. So often, you'll want unbuffered writes in your log, to get messages pushed to disk immediately.
Anyway, another (more robust) approach might be to run the logger itself in a non-background thread. That way, even if the rest of the application terminates, the logger won't, so the process is kept alive. Then you just have to set some flag when the rest of the app terminates, to let the logger know that it too should close once it has written out all pending log messages.
It still won't save you from the case where the system loses power or someone forcibly termianates the process on the OS-level, but it will handle all cases where the application closes normally, and gives you unlimited time to perform clean-up actions (since the process isn't actually terminating yet, it's still got one live thread)
ie. guaranteed to be called and have unlimited time to finish?
Unfortunately, NO option is going to have unlimited time, and be guaranteed. There is no way to enforce this, as many things can happen. Somebody tripping over the power cord or a forced termination of your program will prevent any option from giving you adequate time to handle things.
In general, putting your logic at the end of the Main routine is probably the most reasonable option, since that gives you complete freedom in handling your termination events. You have no time constraints there, and can have the processing take as much time as needed.
There are no guarantees that this will run, though, since a forceful termination of your program may bypass this entirely.
Based on the documentation, it looks like the default application domain (the one your Main method is probably running in) will not receive the DomainUnload event.
I don't know a built-in event that would do what you expect.
You could define your own custom event, have interested parties register with it, and fire off the event just before you return from Main().
I don't know how old this thread is, but I've had a similar problem whcih was a little tough for me to solve.
I had a WinForms application that was not firing any of the above forementioned events when a user logged out. Wraaping the Application.Run() in a try finally didn't work either.
Now to get around this you would have to using PInvoke into Win32 API's to achieve this. Well you did prior to .NET 2.0 anyways. Luckly MS introduced a new class called SystemEvents. With this class you can catch a SessionEnd event. This event allows you to cleanup when the OS want to terminate your app. There is no .NET time limit o this event it appears, although the OS will eventually kill your app if you take too long. This is a little more than 3 seconds, although 3 seconds should be plenty of time to cleanup.
Secondly my other problem was I wanted my worker thread to terminate the main thread once it was finished its work. With an Application.Run() this was hard to achieve. What I ended up doing was calling Application.Run() with a shared Application context. The thread is then able to call ApplicationContext.ThreadExit() to force the Application.Run to return. This seems to work quite nicely.
Hope this helps someone.
Regards
NozFX

Categories

Resources