Thrown exception doesnt stop application - c#

Some of exceptions thrown like this:
throw new Exception( errMsg );
... doest reallly stops my application!
My expectation is when I'm throwing any ex. - app shall stop immediately.
But I noticed my app throwing one ex. after another (especially when binding) instead of terminating same time
EDIT_1:
I dont have try-catch block when it can be intercept
EDIT_2:
As mentioned - this mainly happens when binding.
Eg I have object's getter checking user's privileges (GetValue method)- if not raises exception.
I can see in debugger it executing throw new Exception(...) statement but apps doesn't stop.
I've also noticed exceptions are thrown as many times as many items are in bound collection...
Any idea how to force stop binding and rise real exception??
Sample code to illustrate what I'm talkin'
public string Name {
get { return GetValue( name, "Name"); }
}

Uncaught exceptions will cause your application to terminate. Its by design (at least after 2.0 was released; 1.1 had a different behavior, iirc).
They call this "failing fast." The idea is that if an exception you didn't expect (and therefore catch) is thrown, your application is in an unstable state. At this point, its better for it to crash than continue limping along.
Binds behave differently, as all binding operations (in WPF) are designed to catch all exceptions rather than take down your application. Why they made that decision is something that the WPF team would have to tell you.

Exceptions only stop the application if they remain uncaught all the way to the bottom of the current stack. WPF binding is very resilient to most thrown exceptions; instead it will log failures in the output window and carry on. Whether this was a good design decision is a matter for debate...

If I understand you correctly: your app will continue to run if the thrown exception is caught as part of a try/catch block, or if you have set up an exception catch-all handler at the application level.

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C#: should all exceptions be caught

Should all exceptions be caught in a C# program, or are some exceptions (such as stack overflow, out of memory etc.) ones that you should allow the program to crash on because there is no way to recover from them?
You should only catch exceptions that you are able to handle. Never ever catch exceptions and do nothing. Do your best to keep the exception from occurring in the first place. This is especially important in .Net because exceptions incur a penalty in performance due to the stack trace.
It depends on the program, of course, but in general, only catch exceptions that you can actually do something about in a meaningful way.
See this question about catching an OutOfMemoryException (you can usually recover from it) and this one about catching a StackOverflowException (generally not possible).
If you're writing a long-running application (e.g. a web server), then of course you'd want to catch all possible exceptions to prevent them from terminating the entire process. If you're writing a low-impact end-user application, then perhaps just logging the exception and failing fast is the best solution.
It's impossible to be (completely) prepared for the unexpected.
Yes, at the very least exceptions should be logged, giving as much intofmation about the state of the system/program at the time of the crash. The Logging Application Block is one of the more robust automatic ways to log errors.
From commercial application development POV, all exceptions should be caught and NONE should be allowed to crash the program. Because, now-a-days, computer users can differentiate between an error message and application crash dialog.
A product that crashes gives bad impression to the customer. When you have no way to recover, you can show an error message politely saying that the app will exit now and the user has to start the app again. Then, gracefully exit when the user presses ok on the modal dialog.
Even sometimes you can give useful information when there is no way to recover. For example, in case of out of memory, you can advise the user to close other applications (if any) before starting this app again.
Though, the end result is same, but a friendly error message gives much better impression than an OS generated crash dialog.
MSDN article on the topic:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms229005.aspx
Highlights:
Avoid handling errors by catching non-specific exceptions, such as System.Exception, System.SystemException, and so on, in application code. There are cases when handling errors in applications is acceptable, but such cases are rare.
An application should not handle exceptions that can result in an unexpected or exploitable state. If you cannot predict all possible causes of an exception and ensure that malicious code cannot exploit the resulting application state, you should allow the application to terminate instead of handling the exception.
...
You should catch only those exceptions that you can recover from.
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Do prefer using an empty throw (throw;) when catching and re-throwing an exception. This is the best way to preserve the exception call stack.
MSDN Magazine on Exception Handling changes in .NET 4.0 -
"It's Still Wrong to Use Catch (Exception e)" -
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd419661.aspx#id0070057
When you think that there might be an issue arising from user interaction with your app in an unintended way, then you must always catch a possible exception, and handle it with relevant error messages.

C# create a fatal exception?

I have a strange scenario when my application can get into an infinite loop when shutting down. It occurs when it wants to do something but the calls fail as it no longer has access (time based). In such a scenario it should just stop.
I record failed attempts and if the count goes above a certain number in a certain time I throw an exception which I expect to start the JIT debugger and stop the application.
I am not entirely sure why it gets into the loop so I want the JIT window that gives me information like the call stack and application status.
I have exception handling, but what I want is to turn it off and somehow generate an exception that will trigger the JIT debugger, however, all other posts I have found have been for handling exceptions and avoid crashes.
If there is another way at runtime to have the application stop and tell me what is happening I would like to know.
Thanks.
You should try Debugger.Launch() and Debugger.Break() methods (but remember that you should use them only in development environment). You can read more here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/7kzs2ysh.aspx
This line:
System.Diagnostics.Debugger.Launch();
will launch the debugger for you. Give it a try.
I have exception handling
Sounds to me that you have too much of it. Only ever catch specific exception types, never catch Exception. Now you can simply throw any other exception type and your app will bomb with an unhandled exception. Which brings up the JIT debugger dialog on your dev machine, a merciful end on your customer's machine.
Using System.Diagnostics.Debugger is good too, but wrap it with #ifdef DEBUG. Your customer doesn't have one.

Wouldn’t handling an exception be a better idea

1)
1 - Only handle exceptions that you
can actually do something about, and
2 - You can't do anything about the vast majority of exceptions
a) I assume that “By not handling an exception” the text is suggesting that we should let the exception bubble up the stack, where runtime will abort our application?!
b) But why is letting the runtime abort the exception preferred over catching an exception, logging it and then informing the user of failure? Only difference between the two is that in the latter case application isn’t aborted
For example, if database goes down, why should the whole program crash ( due to not handling an exception ), if we can instead catch the exception, log it and notify user of failure and that way we can keep the program up and running
2) If you know that exception potentially raised by some block of code can’t be handled, should you include this code inside a try-finally block or is it better to leave it outside any try-finally blocks?
Thank you
No, the guideline is not to catch an exception you cannot do anything about except at the top-level of your application or thread.
You should try to avoid letting your application crash - log the information somewhere, give a message to your user explaining what happened, and tell them how to report the error to you. Perhaps also try to save their unsaved data in a recovery file so that the next time the application starts it can offer the option to attempt to recover their lost work.
Try looking at it this way... The database goes down. How do you know? Because you get an timeout/an exception/something. But your application probably isnt getting the exception. ADO.NET/Linq to SQL/Entity Framework/Whatever data provider you are using is actually getting the exception and throwing it to your application. To me, this is what that advice is advising: as a component designer, prefer to throw exceptions you can't do anything about.
For the database down example, is there anything the ADO.NET data provider can do? Can it bring a server back up? Repair network connections? Reset permissions? No. So it doesn't handle the exception, it throws it.
The guideline you cite is for component development, not the outer edge of a run-time boundary (a thread or application). At that level, it would be correct to make a decision on how to handle exception that have bubbled that far.
I think the person you are quoting suggests that you should let the exception bubble up the stack until something higher up can make sense of it or until it reaches the top of the call stack where you do have code that would log it, or display a error message to the user then exit your program if it is fatal, or carry on if it is not.
Sometimes it may be better to not continue executing the program - if you get a OutOfMemoryException for example or some other situation where the programs actions are undefined - a potential disaster.
I think the key to
Only handle exceptions that you can actually do something about
is that you should only handle the exception if you can carry on from that point in your application.
To take a trivial example.
If you're looking for a file on the user's system and it's not there when it should be you should raise the "file not found" exception. Now if you can recover from this (say by simply recreating the file) then do so and carry on. However, if the file can't be recreated then you shouldn't let your program carry on.
However, this doesn't mean you can't have a top level catch all exception handler in your main program to display a friendly message to the user, perhaps to log the exception or even mail it to you the developer.
That statement holds true. But it is a reference to catching exception in the deeper layers of application. Basically most of the code we write does not need exception handling. It is only the client part of the application is responsible for catching the error and presenting it to the user - as well as logging.
For example, the same business code/database code can be used in a web application and windows/wpf application and logging/handling could be different and deeper layers do not know about how this will be handled so they need to leave the responsibility to the UI tier.
The point is that you don't want to have try/catch blocks nested everywhere in your code as this tends to hide issues with your code. It is better to only implement exception handling where you understand the error and the desired outcome, else don't handle it and let it bubble up.
As for as the errors bubbling up, you should have a global exception handler for these uncaught application errors. This is only implemented in one spot in your app and will allow you to log or present the error to the user. Again this is only implemented in one spot in your app, and is implemented by hooking the application.error event.
Event to hook in .net win forms application:
AppDomain.CurrentDomain.UnhandledException
Event to hook in .net asp.net application:
HttpApplication.Error
Enjoy!
Without knowledge about the context of both statements, stated that both statements apply to methods and classes then they make sense:
A piece of code which calls a method can only handle exceptions for which it has enough information about the context. In most cases a piece of code won't have enough information, to handle all exceptions.
Example: A piece of code, which calls a method SaveData() can handle a DatabaseStorageException when it knows, that it saves data to a database. On the other hand, if the piece of code is programmed in a storage agnostic manner, than catching such a specific exception is not a very good idea. In this case it is better to let the exception pop up the callstack and let some other code handle the exception, which has enough context information to handle it.

Would you ever NOT catch an exception, or throw an exception that won't be caught?

I've dealt with instances where I would throw/rethrow an exception knowing that the code surrounding it would catch the specific exception. But is there any time you would want to throw an exception, knowing that it wouldn't be caught?
Or at least, NOT catch an exception?
Exceptions immediately halt the application unless their handled right? So I guess I'm asking if you would ever want to purposely let your application die?
If your application is primarily going to be used by other clients and is not standalone, it generally makes sense to throw exceptions if a condition arises that you don't know how to (or don't want to) handle, and there's no sensible way for you to recover from it. Clients should be able to decide how they want to handle any exceptions that you might throw.
On the other hand, if your application is the endpoint, throwing an exception essentially becomes a notification mechanism to alert people that something has gone terribly wrong. In such cases, you need to consider a few things:
How important is the continued running of the application? Is this error really unrecoverable? Throwing an exception and terminating your program is not something you want to be doing on the space shuttle.
Are you using exceptions as a proxy for real logging? There's almost never a reason to do this; consider a real logging mechanism instead. Catch the exception and have the logger work out what happened.
What are you trying to convey by throwing the exception yourself? Ask yourself what the value in throwing a new exception is, and consider carefully whether there isn't a better way to do what you want.
Not catching an exception may leave resources in a bad state. If you don't gracefully exit, things are generally not cleaned up for you. Make sure you understand what you're doing if you need to do this -- and if you're not going to catch it, at least consider a try-finally block so you can do some tidying up.
There's a very good rule that I came across a while ago:
Throw an exception when a method can't do what its name says it does.
The idea is that an exception indicates that something has gone wrong. When you are implementing a method, it is not your responsibility to be aware of whether it will be used correctly or not. Whether the code using your method catches the exception or not is not your responsibility, but the responsibility of the person using your method.
Another rule to follow is:
Don't catch an exception unless you know what you want to do with it.
Obviously, you should include cleanup code in a try...finally block, but you should never just catch an exception just for the sake of catching it. And you should never swallow exceptions silently. While there are occasions when you may want to catch all exceptions (e.g. by doing catch (Exception ex) in C#), these are fairly uncommon and generally have a very specific technical reason. For example, when you are using threads in .NET 2.0 or later, if an exception escapes from your thread, it will cause the entire application domain to unload. In these cases, however, at the very minimum you should log the exception details as an error and provide an explanation in the comments.
Sure. For example, if you're trying to load some bytes into a string in Java:
try {
String myString = new String(byteArray, "UTF-8");
} catch (UnsupportedEncodingException e) {
// Platform doesn't support UTF-8? What is this, 1991?
throw new RuntimeExceptione(e);
}
In this case, there is no graceful degradation, the platform simply can't support the operation desired. You can check for this condition at initialization all you want, but the constructor for String still throws this exception, and you have to deal with it. Either that, or use Charset.forName() :)
Generally, and certainly in early iterations of your application, don't catch the exception. More often than not, the recovery from an exception will require a business rule of some sort, and, more often than not, those business rules are not defined for you. If you "handle" the exception instead of letting the application die then you will most likely be inventing business rules for your customer. Not good.
The general pattern of catching every exception just for the sake of catching it has caused me more headaches than I can count. It usually happens that someone puts some sort of generic exception handling code throughout the application, which inevitably ends up hiding a bug or creating some behavior that is unwanted. (incidentally, catching and then not rethrowing is even worse.)
So, I'd suggest that you ask instead: "When should I catch an exception?"
Here's the thing ... it is about "layers", or "encapsulation", or "low coupling". At some place in your codebase, you're writing a method to do something. Say it's a public method. Therefore, it should not assume much or anything about the caller ... rather, it should merely do the job it is supposed to do, regardless of who is calling it and what context the caller is in.
And if, for some reason, it cannot complete its job, then it needs to tell the caller "Sorry, I couldn't do that, and here's why". Exceptions are an excellent mechanism to let it tell the caller that (not the only mechanism, but the best mechanism I've ever seen for most cases).
So, when you throw the exception, you have no idea whether it will be caught or not ... because you're exposing a public method and you have no idea who might choose to call it and why.
The catching of the exception is the job of the "context". For example, say you're writing a library with public methods that might throw exceptions. Then, say you're using that library from a Windows Forms app. The Windows Forms app might catch exceptions and show a message box to the user.
But later, you might use the same library from a Windows Service. The Service would be more likely to catch the exception, log it, return an error to the original caller, but keep running so it can process further requests.
So the exception is like a contractual agreement between the caller and the provider. The provider says, "I'll either do the job or tell you why I can't. What you do from there is your own business." And the caller says, "OK, if you can't do the job, just tell me why, and I'll decide what to do in that case."
But is there any time you would want to throw an exception, knowing that it wouldn't be caught?
I would say that if you're manually throwing an exception, most of the time you don't know if it will be caught. If you knew it would be caught you could just handle it yourself rather than throwing the exception in the first place.
To be fair, I suppose that depends in part on the kind of programming you're doing, and sometimes the same programmer ends up building both the library and the code that consumes said library.
Would you ever NOT catch an exception?
If you didn't expect/weren't aware an exception could be thrown. But putting that aside and assuming you are aware of the exception, sometimes you know about it at one tier but know the next tier up is the more appropriate place to handle it.
It depends on the type of application. Web applications can continue running even after exceptions have bubbled up to the execution context.
It is common practice to 'throw/rethrow' an exception if you catch the exception at a level where it can't be dealt with. But, you would almost always add context to the issue, at the very least add some logging at the higher level to say that it was caught and rethrown.
for example
A calls B calls C (throws exception)
B catches/rethrows
A catches.
In this case, you would want B to add some logging so that you can differentiate between B generating and throwing an error, and C generating and throwing an error. That would allow you a greater ability to debug and fix problems later.
In general you will almost NEVER want an exception to kill your program. The best practice is to catch the except and exit gracefully. This allows you to save any currently open information and release resources that are being used so they don't become corrupted. If you intend to exit, you can create your own 'core-dump' information report that includes the things you were doing when you caught the fatal exception.
If you let the exception kill your process you are eliminating your chance to get custom tailored crash information, and you are also skipping the part where you provide the user with a friendly error message and then exit.
So, I would recommend ALWAYS catching exceptions, and never voluntarily letting them run amok in your program.
EDIT
If you are writing a library, you have to choose ahead of time whether your function will throw an exception, or be exception safe. In those cases, sometimes you will throw an exception and have no idea if the calling party will catch it. But in that case, catching it is not your responsibility, as long as the api declares that the function could throw exceptions.
(I'm looking for a word that means 'could possibly throw exception'... anyone know what it is? It's going to bug me all day.)
Firstly, there absolutely are situations where it is better to not catch an exception.
Sometimes, an exception can sometimes tell you that your program is in an unknown state. There are a number of exceptions where this is pretty much intrinsically true given the exception type. A NullReferenceException essentially tells you "there is a bug". And by catching such an exception, you may hide the bug, which sounds good in the short term, but in the long term you'd be happier to fix it. The product may not crash, but it certainly won't have the expected behaviour.
But this is also true for exception types we invent for ourselves. Sometimes, the fact that exception A has been thrown should be "impossible" - and yet it has happened, so there's a bug.
Also, something very important happens when you catch an exception: the finally blocks for the whole call stack inside the try block (and anything it calls) will be executed. What do those finally blocks do? Well, anything. And if the program is in an unknown state, I really do mean anything. They could erase valuable customer data from the disk. They could throw more exceptions. They could corrupt data in memory, making the bug impossible to diagnose.
So when an exception indicates an unknown state, you don't want to run any more code, so whatever you do, don't catch the exception. Let it fly past, and your program will terminate harmlessly, and Windows Error Reporting will be able to capture the state of the program as it was when the problem was originally detected. If you catch the exception, you will cause more code to execute, which will screw up the state of the program further.
Secondly, should you throw an exception knowing it won't be caught? I think that question misunderstands the nature of reusable methods. The whole idea of a method is that it has a "contract" that it follows: it accepts certain parameters and returns a certain value, plus also it throws certain exceptions under certain conditions. That's the contract - it's up to the caller what they do with it. For some callers, exception A might indicate a recoverable condition. For other callers, it might indicate a bug. And from what I said above, it should be clear that if an exception indicates a bug, it must not be caught.
And if you're wondering what this means for the Microsoft Enterprise Library's Exception Handling Block: yes, it's pretty broken. They tell you to catch (Exception x) and then decide whether to rethrow based on your policy; too late - the finally blocks have already executed by that point. Don't do that.
You probably wouldn't want an uncaught exception anywhere where the end-users can see it, but it is often acceptable to let clients of your API (other programmers) decide how to handle exceptions.
For example, suppose you are designing a Java class library. You expose a public method that takes in a String. In your application, a null input value would cause an error. Instead of handling the error yourself, it would be acceptable to check for a null value, then throw an IllegalArgumentException.
You must, of course, document that your method throws this exception in this circumstance. This behavior becomes part of your method's contract.
It depends on what you mean by 'being caught'. Something, somewhere eventually catches the exception whether it be the underlying OS or something else.
We have a workflow system that executes job plans comprised of individual jobs. Each job runs a unit of code. For some of the exceptions, we don't want to handle them in the code but throw it up the stack so that the external workflow system catches it (which happens completely outside of the thrower's process).
If you're writing the entire application, then your reasons are your own. I can think of a few situations where you might want to throw the exception and let the app die, most of them are not very good reasons though.
The best reason is usually when debugging. I frequently disable exceptions while debugging to allow me to know better where something is failing. You can also just turn on thrown exception breaks in the debugger if you're running it on a machine with the debugger.
Another possible reason is when continuing after an exception is thrown doesn't make sense or would result in possible irrecoverable data corruption or worse (think Robots with laser beams, but then you should be damn sure your applicaiton deals with these situations IMO, crashing the program is just the lazy way).
If you're writing API code, or Framework code that you won't use yourself, then you have no idea if someone will catch your exceptions.
Yup, it's my ONLY opportunity to slap the developer consuming the service/object to tell them "Ur dO1n it WrOnG!!!!".
That and getting rid of possibilities that you don't want to permit or are seemingly "impossible". Apps that catch all exceptions and continue are just a walled garden surrounded by chaos.
If I need a moderately large system that is somehow processing data in what I believe to be a consistent manner.
And
Somewhere along the line, I detect that the application's state has become inconsistent.
And
The system doesn't (yet) know how to fix the inconsistency and recover gracefully
Then, yes, I would throw an exception with as much detail as possible and cause the application to die as quickly as possible, to avoid doing any further harm to the data. If it can be recovered, it'd be important not to exacerbate the problem by trying feebly to cover up the mess.
Later along the line, once the chain of events that led to the inconsistency is better understood, I higher facility can catch that exception, repair the state, and continue with minimal interruption.
A library will often throw exceptions based on defensive programming checks, should a condition arise that shouldn't have been allowed to arise by the application code. Applications code will often be written such that most of those invalid conditions will never arise, and therefore the exceptions will never be thrown, so there's no point catching them.
Depending on language (I'm mostly thinking in terms of C++ rather than C#, and not that clear what the differences are) the effect of an uncaught exception actually being thrown is probably the same as what used to be done in the days before exceptions were invented. A common policy for defensive programming in C libraries, for example, was to terminate the program immediately with an error message.
The difference is that if the exception throw does turn out to be possible (hopefully this will be discovered through unit testing), it is often relatively easy to add an exception handler that can recover from the problem in a more constructive way. You don't have to rewrite the library, or add complex checks in application code to ensure the condition cannot arise before the exception-throwing call is made.
I have quite a few exception throws that are never caught. They are all for defensive purposes, and while being uncaught is bad for an exception that does happen, this only ever happens during development and testing, for error conditions I failed to consider in the application code so far. And when it happens, it is unusual for the fix to be awkward - no need for a large-scale refactoring, no need for the applications code to be massively complicated with error condition checks, just a catch clause with a relatively simple recovery or "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that." without failing out the whole app.

How to catch ALL exceptions/crashes in a .NET app [duplicate]

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I have a .NET console app app that is crashing and displaying a message to the user.
All of my code is in a try{<code>} catch(Exception e){<stuff>} block, but still errors are occasionally displayed.
In a Win32 app, you can capture all possible exceptions/crashes by installing various exception handlers:
/* C++ exc handlers */
_set_se_translator
SetUnhandledExceptionFilter
_set_purecall_handler
set_terminate
set_unexpected
_set_invalid_parameter_handler
What is the equivalent in the .NET world so I can handle/log/quiet all possible error cases?
You can add an event handler to AppDomain.UnhandledException event, and it'll be called when a exception is thrown and not caught.
Contrary to what some others have posted, there's nothing wrong catching all exceptions. The important thing is to handle them all appropriately. If you have a stack overflow or out of memory condition, the app should shut down for them. Also, keep in mind that OOM conditions can prevent your exception handler from running correctly. For example, if your exception handler displays a dialog with the exception message, if you're out of memory, there may not be enough left for the dialog display. Best to log it and shut down immediately.
As others mentioned, there are the UnhandledException and ThreadException events that you can handle to collection exceptions that might otherwise get missed. Then simply throw an exception handler around your main loop (assuming a winforms app).
Also, you should be aware that OutOfMemoryExceptions aren't always thrown for out of memory conditions. An OOM condition can trigger all sorts of exceptions, in your code, or in the framework, that don't necessarily have anything to do with the fact that the real underlying condition is out of memory. I've frequently seen InvalidOperationException or ArgumentException when the underlying cause is actually out of memory.
This article in codeproject by our host Jeff Atwood is what you need.
Includes the code to catch unhandled exceptions and best pratices for showing information about the crash to the user.
The Global.asax class is your last line of defense.
Look at:
protected void Application_Error(Object sender, EventArgs e)
method
Be aware that some exception are dangerous to catch - or mostly uncatchable,
OutOfMemoryException: anything you do in the catch handler might allocate memory (in the managed or unmanaged side of the CLR) and thus trigger another OOM
StackOverflowException: depending whether the CLR detected it sufficiently early, you might get notified. Worst case scenario, it simply kills the process.
You can use the AppDomain.CurrentDomain.UnhandledException to get an event.
Although catching all exceptions without the plan to properly handle them is surely a bad practice, I think that an application should fail in some graceful way. A crash should not scare the user to death, and at least it should display a description of the error, some information to report to the tech support stuff, and ideally a button to close the application and restart it. In an ideal world, the application should be able to dump on disk the user data, and then try to recover it (but I see that this is asking too much).
Anyway, I usually use:
AppDomain.CurrentDomain.UnhandledException
You may also go with Application.ThreadException Event.
Once I was developing a .NET app running inside a COM based application; this event was the very useful, as AppDomain.CurrentDomain.UnhandledException didn't work in this case.
I think you should rather not even catch all Exception but better let them be shown to the user. The reason for this is that you should only catch Exceptions which you can actually handle. If you run into some Exception which causes the program to stop but still catch it, this might cause much more severe problems.
Also read FAQ: Why does FxCop warn against catch(Exception)?.
Be aware that catching these unhandled exceptions can change the security requirements of your application. Your application may stop running correctly under certain contexts (when run from a network share, etc.). Be sure to test thoroughly.
it doesn't hurt to use both
AppDomain.CurrentDomain.UnhandledException
Application.ThreadException
but keep in mind that exceptions on secondary threads are not caught by these handlers; use SafeThread for secondary threads if needed

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