I have a simple app written using SQL Server, Entity Framework, C# and WCF. When I wanted to share this app with my friends, I realised they didn't use SQL Server on their machine. I could go for SQL Server Express edition, as the usage of my app is personal and non-commercial.
I found MySQL as a popular alternative to SQL Server.
1) Would I be required to update my entities when moving to MySQL?
2) Should I anticipate code changes in my BL layer due to change in entities layer? (I am wondering whether entities was built for SQL Server)
Are there any databases similar to MS Access that is lightweight compared to MySQL?
Are there any databases that need not be installed but can be copied around like MS Access?
Appreciate your response!
Sounds like you want SQLite.
SQLite is a software library that
implements a self-contained,
serverless, zero-configuration,
transactional SQL database engine.
Very easy to deploy. Also, check out System.Data.SQLite.
According to the System.Data.SQLite page ...
Supports nearly all the entity
framework functionality that Sql
Server supports, and passes 99% of the
tests in MS's EFQuerySamples demo
application.
You should be good. :)
Im not sure how your BLL looks like and i have no experience with entity framework, but ive experienced multiple times that linq-to-sql works much better with sql-server as with any other database.
So unless you have a good reason not to use sql express, i'd advice to stick to sql express.
After all, you should always install something when deploying (unless you use xml as storage, which is quite well possible with linq-to-xml).
VistaDB Express Edition is also free for non-commercial usage and integrates good into .NET and VS. afaik it also works on a single local data file thus requires no specific installation on your friends' computers.
Otherwise I recommend using PostgreSQL over MySql since it is more standards compliant and has a nicer license.
I think what you're after is just a change in providers. What you need to use MySQL is the .Net Connector which supports most everything simple. It's not very mature yet so something very complex you may have issues on, but it should do most of what you want through Entity Framework.
With Entity Framework yes you can do updates, it's LINQ-to-SQL that doesn't update against any other databases (unless you use a third party provider like DotConnect)
SQLite is one alternative, but since multiple threads against it can cause major issues with it's operation, so if you need a major data store I'd go SQLExpress or MySQL.
Yes, you could use MySql with EF but I don't know if it would require changes.... I wouldn't be surprised if it does though. At the very least your physical DB would have to be ported / converted to MySql and that will take time.
I would assume that if you need to install a DB on your friends Pc's why not stick with SQL Express since you already developed in SQL Server on your box. Should be less issues with this than migrating to MySql.
I'd also vote for VistaDB 3 as it's so easy to deploy.
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I have a central oracle database and I need to write a c# desktop app that can hold all the oracle data for being offline, works on the data and than sync it back to oracle later. The local database should be simple and should not need admin rights to install and use, actually like SQL Compact Edition, which is unfortunately deprecated)
I want to use a modern software architecture, so I thought about using EF 6.0 and generate some entities to work on.
I've read tons of documents and threads, but it seems that almost everything is deprecated. All tutorials I found are made with Visual Studio 2008. Newest version of Microsoft Sync Framework is 2.1 and the additional Microsoft Sync Framework Toolkit was released three years ago with no updates. It also uses Microsoft SQL Compact Edition 4.0, which is deprecated (comment by Microsoft).
I found an example syncing Oracle and SQL CE on code.microsoft.com Database-Sync-Oracle-and-037fb083), but it uses the old and deprecated System.Data.Oracle namespace.
Somethings that's not deprecated is SQL Server 2014 Express and LocalDB, but it needs admin rights to install and hundreds of Megabyte on the disc)
Also SQLite is up to date and can handle this, but unfortunately there seems to be no EF 6.0 support. Here is a nice overview about it
Is there anybody out there who knows some "news" about it?
Finally i used Access with typed datasets. I'm not happy with that. SQLite was the only real option, but there are also no good viewer to see and edit the data. The customer is good with Access, so we used that.
Unfortunately i have two different technologies to use databases in my application. EF for oracle and typed datasets for access... this is poor. nobody knows why microsoft has no modern solution for that, without admin rights and hundreds of megabyte. Also EF can not use Access, whyever. Maybe they want everything in a cloud...
I have an application (currently in foxpro) that uses about 12 tables that can be networked.
The tables are related in various ways, but not unduely complex - more like a customer ordering system
I want to rewrite it in C# using MS Visual Studio.
The Application is desktop only but with up to 5 users able to access it at any given time.
The question is which DB should I use?
It needs to be:
Easy to install with the application.
Support sharing from up to 3 or 4 computers
I have looked at SQL Express but the sharing issue looks to be fairly complex and installation for SQL on a server computer is required.
DB4O seems to be for more media rich applications.
I am fairly new to C# (and now getting long in the tooth as well) so I need this to be a reasonably painless way to achieve what I already have in Foxpro.
Some may ask why change - well, there are things that we want to be able to add in the future that would stretch Foxpro too far.
I have spent a couple of weeks researching this and now would really appreciate any help that people could offer.
My policy: If the job can be handled by SQLite (for .NET one option is System.Data.SQLite), use that. On the surface, it sounds like this can.
SQLite is [...] a self-contained, serverless, zero-configuration, transactional SQL database engine. SQLite is the most widely deployed SQL database engine in the world. The source code for SQLite is in the public domain.
Just to stir the pot a bit, if you're connected to the internet you could give a SQL Azure Database a whirl.
No server required; multiple connections not a problem; scalable; maintainable; etc. Synch it with a local database later if you change your mind. MS has a 90 day trial run which would probably suit your investigative purposes.
Downsides are well-covered elsewhere, but mainly it's that internet outage renders your app offline.
It's actually not a bad option if you're looking to get your upgrade up and running quickly.
try MySQL, i think there is an easy way to make the database shared along the network (i think it's in the installation process)
mysql... use this driver ODBC drive so that your .NET applications can connect to mysql mysql odbc driver
SQL Server Compact Edition supports multiple clients on the same machine. If you need to connect to the database from multiple computers, you should probably stick with Express Edition.
Have you considered using a Document Database rather than the typical Releationl Databases being discussed here?
One that is very friendly in the .Net space is RavendDB.
Work through this simple "Hello World" tutorial (shows some basic CRUD coding) in Visual Studio to get a feel for how it works: http://ravendb.net/tutorials/hello-world
LocalDB would be a good solution
I have a Hosting which doesn't support SQL server or any other databse because it is cheap. I know that there are some Dll in which we can add to project and use it as the database.
I wantto know that which one is the best? and is there any other solution to use a database in a Hosting which doesn't support any kind of Database? (don't tell that you can usefile-base database, cause I don't like it)
You could use SQL Server Compact Edition, or SqlLite with a .NET provider (like this one: System.Data.SQLite).
Best might be subjective, but
Microsoft SQL Server Compact 4.0 or Sqlite
SQL Server Compact Edition 4 was updated to enable:
Enabled to work in the medium or partial trust environments in the web servers, and can be easily deployed along with the website to the third party website hosting service providers.
FireBird is also a good choice.
Read more about it.
What is a good embedded database to use with C#?
There is an sql server compact editon if you have no access to a data base server. Also if you host doesn't support databases you can get hosted databases from another provider. Another very popular DBMSless option is Sql light which I have used in c and am sure some one has extended to use in c#.
I suggest you Db4o (Database for objects): http://www.db4o.com
It's an object-oriented database and it works like a charm since it store objects instead of tables and rows, that may be a good choice for you as it'll free you of creating a data access layer, object-relational mapping and so.
Anyway, I'll tell you that if you're going to host data for some multi-user application, any of possible solutions would be a bad choice because you'll have great performance issues.
I would take SQLite over SQL Compact Edition in notime.
So, for small apps, I always go with SQLite.
You have a good (maybe the best) library for C# here as well, you can use a small app to view the database using SQLite Admin
It might interest you:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/583278/sqlite-vs-sqlce-vs-in-a-mobile-application
and
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2278104/sql-ce-sqlite-what-are-the-differences-between-them
I'm using SqlLite and happy with it. It works greatly even in cheapest shared web hostings.
Ok before I explain... I know Access should basically not be used anymore.
My application now uses access for its portability.. its an internal application and makes private/internal database storage a snap.
Problem is, it uses JET 4.0 which is not supported in 64 bit operating systems and is frankly not very well implemented anymore.
I am developing using C# .NET visual studio 2008. I am looking for a way to do this with some other database type that would not require me to install anything else on a users computer. I looked into sqlite but there's no easy way to implement it in visual studio
An Ideas?
You can use SQL Server Compact 3.5 (the embedded version of SQL Server 2008).
I recommend System.Data.Sqlite (http://sqlite.phxsoftware.com/), a managed, open-source ADO.Net wrapper around the open-source Sqlite database. No installation required - you just include the single DLL in your solution. It boasts a small footprint, encryption, and good performance.
SQL Server Express edition should come with Visual Studio. It is an option at installation time, IIRC.
Access has a couple of key characteristics:
- Single-user
- Requires installation
For alternatives this gives you (at least):
SQL Compact (doesn't require installation, single-user)
SQLite (doesn't require installation, single-user--although multi-user is supported)
SQL Express (multi-user, requires install)
SQL CE is a good option as already mentioned. You could also consider xml if the data is not private and you don't have concurrent users (which is very likely if you are using Access). Xpath provides a lot of the features you would normally need from database queries and storage. You also wouldn't need to install anything.
Did you try with H2?
The main features of H2 are:
Very fast, open source, JDBC API
Embedded and server modes; in-memory databases
Browser based Console application
Small footprint: around 1 MB jar file size
Check out about implementation:
http://www.google.ba/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=C%23+h2+database
This is one reason why people continue to use Access. Of course you want an easy solution that doesn't require any installs on the client side.
We've all assumed so far your users are disconnected from your SQL Server. If they can connect, you're home free. It's less of a problem if you need to support read-only disconnected use, more of a problem if you need to pull updated data from disconnected users.
Can you tell us more about what you need?
Firebird can be a very good alternative to Access and have very good dot net driver
Here is a comparison between Firebird Embedded and SQL Server Compact Edition
How about XML? Easy to use, and it works on any platform. Not the easies to implement if you're unfamiliar with it, but it's pretty rad once you learn how it works.
I'm making an application in C# (with Express Edition) for which I would like to add some SQL functionality so that the user can query a database. I don't care how or where I store the database. I can store it in a DataTable or a bi-dimensional array or any kind of file. But I want the user to be able to SQL-query it. Apparently this should be quite simple since the .net seems to be full of database libraries and stuff. I was thinking about downloading MySQL and see if I can connect it to my application. I guess if I want to distribute my application then the user would need to download MySQL as well, which is not a big deal but would be great if I can avoid it. Anyway, for now I would like to start working on my program ASAP, so whatever is the easiest way to do what I want, even if it's not distributable, (but if it is then that's even better), will be good. Thanks in advance.
There are embeddable databases. SQL Server Compact Edition and SQLite are common ones. You can execute queries against these just as you can MySQL or SQL Server.
SQLite (.NET)
SQL Server Compact
You can use most popular databases with .NET. SQL Server, Oracle, MySQL, etc. But you're gonna need drivers of each. So, I'd suggest using SQL Server Express Edition to you to get started.
Then you can easily use SqlConnection and SqlCommand classes to connect and execute queries.
You could use a dbml file in your project and link it to your sql database and then run a sql statement using Linq2SQL documented here
I would look at using and embedded database that you can distribute with your application. SQLite is a very good option. You can then use a free ADO.Net library like System.Data.SQLite for data access. It also provides design time support for Visual Studio.
You can use LINQ to Objects or LINQ to Datasets to run LINQ queries with no database whatsoever. You can't use a bi-dimensional array, but you can use a List<> of objects with properties as a LINQ context.
From your question it sounds like your application, like most applications, may need to store the data for later use: that's where a database will come in handy. .NET Datasets have built in support for persistence to an XML file if your data storage requirements are simple enough to use that. .NET also supports persistence for objects, but you may find that using a database is the simplest solution, especially if you require multi-user access and editing.