I'm doing a Drag Drop to external app like this:
string[] files = new string[/* */];
// get files
DataObject o = new DataObject(DataFormats.FileDrop, files);
DoDragDrop(o, DragDropEffects.Copy | DragDropEffects.Move);
and some apps will take the files and move on to process them and my app is free to do it's stuff, but some apps will make MY app freeze until it processess all the files... is there any way I can go around that? I've tried to do it in a Thread but that didn't work so well - it didn't work at all... so, any suggestions how to make this code do not hang my app?
the .NET Control.DoDragDrop is just a wapper around the Win32 api called.. (wait for it).. DoDragDrop
So it has the same limitations. DoDragDrop can only be called from a thread that has called OleInitialize, which makes the thread a STA (Single Threaded Apartment) type thread.
Because it can only be used by an STA thread, and the API design is synchronous, you are at the mercy of the destination applications' handling of drop notifications. This is just part of the design of OLE Drag and Drop and cant be changed. (OLE Drag and drop was actually designed in the Windows 3x days, before threads even existed in windows applications).
So, you could maybe make this work on another thread IFF that thread is a STA thread. You would also probably have to use interop to call the unmanaged DoDragDrop function.
It will always freeze, but the delay isn't noticeable with small files. Check out this answer.
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I’m using the FileUtilities.CopyFile wrapper for CopyFileEx from here http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc163851.aspx . I thought the CopyFileCallbackAction doesn’t get called until after the file is copied (I’ve tried copying a large file). And therefore asked this How do I get CopyFileEx to report back so I can cancel a file copy operation? question. But now I’ve found that it actually gets called many times, but for some reason it messes the form on which I’m trying to show the progress – the form doesn’t get updated until the copy is done. In fact, if I try running it in the Shown event handler – the form has empty boxes where buttons are supposed to be – until the copy is done. Why is that?
You will need to call CopyFileEx from a background thread. At the moment the call to CopyFileEx is blocking the UI thread. That's why the UI does not update.
The callback action is indeed called repeatedly. This is so that you can report to the user the progress of a long running file operation.
Just to be clear, this is what happens when you call CopyFileEx:
Enter CopyFileEx
Start copying
Call your callback
Continue copying
Call your callback
....
Return from CopyFileEx
For the entire duration of the file copy, the executing thread is busy copying the file rather than pumping the message queue. Although this is WinForms and not Win32, WinForms is a relatively lightweight wrapper around the standard Win32 GUI framework. Your message queue needs to be serviced regularly and so all long running tasks need to be run away from the UI thread.
One final point: remember that when you get your progress callback, you need to use Invoke or BeginInvoke when updating any UI. This is because code that updates UI needs to be run from the UI thread.
I have an app that runs a process which needs to open an internet explorer, go to an url, and do some stuff there, input some data, and return.
This usually takes a while (several pages that need to be filled, doesn't matter). The problem is, while this process is being done, the calling app (a standard wpf app) UI is unresponsive/frozen. When the process returns, i have some info that i need to set in one of the WPF app's objects
The main problem is that since IE needs to be called from within an STA thread, if I try to call it from within the dispatcher asynchronously or synchronously, for some reason the UI is blocked (i have tried with different DispatcherPriority-es but didn't get lucky).
If i start a new BackgroundWorker, that thread is in MTA mode (and i can't switch it back), so there's a problem and i have an exception
I'm really lost here, could anyone put some light into this? maybe what i want to do is simply not possible.
Have you tried creating your own background thread (not relying on BackgroundWorker), and set its ApartmentState to STA?
I'm looking at creating a tabbed interface which has user controls (possibly written by plug-in developers) within a tabbed or MDI interface. These plug-in controls could unintentionally freeze their GUI thread, and I'd prefer that they not influence user controls in other tabs. Much like Google Chrome creates a process for each tab; but in this case, just threads.
Or perhaps even an MDI interface where the child MDI forms are owned by separate threads?
I've found that while I can run multiple GUI threads at once, the Form level is where they MUST be separated. Any workarounds/ideas?
For those saying this shouldn't be needed, I call bullshit. Google's Chrome browser runs tabs in separate processes for security and UI reasons. I'm merely trying to duplicate this behavior. When the people writing the user controls are sucky plug-in developers, this is important.
No it is not possible to do this in the way you are describing. A control which is owned / affinitized to another GUI thread cannot be directly contained within a control which is owned / affinitized to a different thread in such a way that it's paint function runs on the other thread.
The right way to fix this situation is to write UserControls that don't perform long-running tasks on the UI thread. If the control is blocking and waiting on some computational task, fix that. Make that task run in the background, and have the control display some non-compute-intensive content until it's done. If that task freezes, the control will be frozen in its "I'm waiting..." state, but it won't intrude on the rest of the UI.
If you're using a third-party control that you can't fix, well, in the immortal words of Jay-Z, I feel bad for you, son.
For the most part, controls shouldn't be performing any processing. Their purpose is to provide interactivity between the user and the application. For example, it is not the job of a button to fetch data from a database and present it to the user. That being said, hopefully you are doing your processing in a controls event handler, such as the Click event on the Button control. In your event handler, you can prevent the UI from appearing "hung" by processing tasks in a background thread. The BackgroundWorker is often useful in these situations.
I suggest reading up on Threading. The Microsoft® .NET Framework Application Development Foundation book has a section on threading (even if no other certification books are read, I at least recommend all .NET developers read this book). Just remember not to update the UI from a child thread. Read an example on how to make a thread-safe call to Windows controls if you're not familiar with this approach.
Instead of having or owning different GUI threads, you should view the whole issue from a different angle. Why would you want a thread associated to tab's child control to be freezed? If it does freeze and everything else feezes too, threading aside, that's not done right from ground up.
What JaredPar pointed out is correct, but that doesn't mean you cannot achieve what you want. I assume you want stuff running within a tab to continue running/stopping without affecting other controls and user-experience.
I've done it before in a complex WinForm app. Here are some readings which might give you more insights:
Threading out tasks in a C#.NET GUI
Thread and GUI
Updating GUI from Other Threads in C#
Advanced Techniques To Avoid And Detect Deadlocks In .NET Apps
I'm building a UI for a program, and I can't figure out why my progress bar won't become visible after the convert button is clicked.
private void convertButton_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
toolStripProgressBar.Visible = true;
...
toolStripProgressBar.Visible = false;
}
I ran into a similar problem with tkinter in Python, and I had to call a function to update the idle tasks. Is there a way to do this with windows forms without using threads?
Edit: On a side note, this is a progress bar in a toolStrip that also contains a label that gets updated with status bar text. Is there any way to get the label on the left side and the progress bar on the other instead of right next to each other on the left?
Well, there is a way to do this without using threads (Application.DoEvents) but I strongly recommend against you using it. Re-entrancy is nasty, and you really don't want the UI thread tied up at all.
Use BackgroundWorker instead - it's easy, and it's pretty much designed for progress bars. It takes the hassle out of using a separate thread and reporting progress back to the UI thread. No need for Control.Invoke etc - it takes care of that for you.
There are lots of tutorials for BackgroundWorker - it shouldn't take you too long to get going with it.
Per the question you asked for the way to do this WITHOUT threads, that is to do it with Application.DoEvents();. (Just add that call right after setting the progress bar as visible.)
Now I do agree with Jon Skeet though that BackgroundWorker is a better way of doing this, but it does use a separate thread.
You need to execute your process in a thread separate from the UI thread, and then have it periodically report back to the UI thread with it's progress. If your convert operation is working inside the UI thread, it will simply go unresponsive until the operation is complete.
The progress bar can only become visible when it is allowed to paint which occurs during the processing of messages. Message processing cannot normally happen while you are in the middle of an event handler. If you want the progress bar to show up you will have to set the visiblitity to true, start a background thread to complete the work and return from the handler.
I'm guessing the problem is that the "..." in your code is a long-running process. UI updates are not instantaneous, but must run through the message queue in windows and then be painted to the screen. The queue is pumped and painting takes place in the same thread as your events.
As a result, any long-running tasks need to be moved to a different thread. More than that, your line line of code needs to called after that thread terminates. Otherwise you set the progress bar and then immediately turn it off again.
One way to do that is with a BackgroundWorker control.
Here go two links trying to explain you how things work:
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Now, I will try to explain it as shortly as I can. Most of what happens inside a windows forms application happens in a single thread, usually the same thread Main() runs in. If you open Program.cs, you will see that Main() has a line that looks like the following:
Application.Run(new Form1());
If you debug the application at any moment and examine the call stack, you will see it will trace back to that Run method. This means that a Windows Forms application is in fact a continuous run of the Run method. So, what is Run doing? Run is eating a message queue through which Windows sends messages to it. Run then dispatches those messages to the correct controls, which themselves do things like add text which corresponds to the key being pressed, redraw themselves, etc. Notice that all this happens during and endless loop running alongside a single thread, so weather you are typing or simply moving the window around, loads of those messages are being passed onto the application, which in turn is processing them and reacting accordingly, all in that single thread. Controls can also send messages to themselves through the queue and even you can place messages in the pump via Control.BeginInvoke. One of the things those controls do is to raise events according to what happens. So, if you click a button, the code you've written to handle that click will ultimately and indirectly be run by the Application.Run method.
Now, what is happening with your code is that even though you are changing the visible status of your progress bar to visible and then updating its Value, you are then changing its visibility to false, all in the same method. This means that only after you leave the method, will Application.Run() be able to continue iterating and consuming the message queue, effectively asking the progress bar to update its display. When that happens, you've already left the progress bar's visibility to false, the last thing you did before exiting the method. DoEvents() is a quick and dirty workaround to your problem as it reads the messages in the queue and processes them. I don't really feel comfortable using it as it can bring reentrancy problems.
Using threads is a good solution, but I would recommend using a ThreadPool thread instead of a custom thread in this kind of situation, as I tend to use custom threads only in cases where I have a limited number of long lived threads and I need to control their life cycles. The easiest and most practical way to use threads is to use the BackgroundWorker component, even though I would recommend going through the pains of understanding how to do Windows Forms multithreading with delegates if you want to really understand what is going on.
My solution is to call refresh on the status strip.
I believe this causes the UI thread to repaint the status strip.
toolStripStatusBar1.PerformStep();
statusStrip1.Refresh();
This is for .NET 4.0. Even though this question is old it was the first I found on googling this issue.
I'm having some problems integrating MS MapPoint 2009 into my WinForms .Net 2.0 application in C#. I've added the ActiveX MapPoint control onto a form and have no problems getting it to display a maps and locations; my concern is the time it takes to load a map once it is created.
The tests on my development machine have shown the average load time to be between 3 and 5 seconds, during which the application is totally locked. While this isn't totally unacceptable, it's an awfully long time to lose control of the application. Also, because the GUI thread is locked, I cannot show a loading dialog or something to mask the load time.
The line that hangs is this: (where axMappointControl1 is the MapPoint control)
axMappointControl1.NewMap(MapPoint.GeoMapRegion.geoMapNorthAmerica);
I've tried executing the NewMap method on another thread but the GUI thread still ends up being blocked.
My questions are:
What can I do to speed up MapPoint when it loads?
Is there any way to load MapPoint so that it won't block the GUI thread?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
According to these threads at mapforums.com the slowness of ActiveX startup is well known and unavoidable (though the question of threading to help with GUI responsiveness is still open.
One thing suggested was to abandon the ActiveX version in favor of the MapPoint.Application object instead.
Hope that helps.
Yes the Application version runs on its own thread - so this should be a quicker alternative - easier to do your own stuff whilst it is starting up. However, MapPoint 2010 tends to take a few seconds to start up when started by a user.
I would create a temporary GUI thread and use this to display a splash screen during start up and/or do any thread-safe initialisation that you need to do.
All calls to a MapPoint instance (or ActiveX control) must be from the same thread that create the MapPoint control or application object.